How can you tell when xist and/or Nude Alpha is working?

(06-05-2015 6:57 AM)Jones23 Wrote:  How can you tell when xist and/or Nude Alpha is working?

I'm still at a loss as to how you can put NA in the same zip code as GOA or Xist let alone the same sentence....just totally different product types IMO. Even Nude is a more complex product before you add the alpha component(s).

Speaking to Xist and GOA the signs will be subtle (most of the time). You will normally see someone being more comfortable in "your" space. Initiating and/or maintaining physical contact (kino, "boobing" etc). Very often they will be more focused on your conversation and talk about personal topics or make positive comments about you. These may not be blatant but just incrementally greater then that persons social norm.

I love Xist and wear it quite often, but normally in combination with an alpha product like BW (AM is another good option). I have very limited exposure to GOA (just got a 30ml bottle). I have found that GOA is very subtle and well buffered and hard to pin down beyond being a feel good juice....you feel good, the people around you feel good and "feel good" stuff just naturally happens.

So to me GOA adjusts the attitude of not just the wearer but those who come into contact with the "cloud". This positive mental attitude is a potentially powerful enabler but really requires the user embrace the upbeat positive attitude the mix draws out.

Xist will work better for a more passive personality (again my opinion). Neither Xist or GOA will normally have blatant "deer in the headlights" type impact like NA and other products can generate. You don't need to ask if NA is working

(06-05-2015 7:26 AM)DWR Wrote:  I'm still at a loss as to how you can put NA in the same zip code as GOA or Xist let alone the same sentence....just totally different product types IMO. Even Nude is a more complex product before you add the alpha component(s).

Speaking to Xist and GOA the signs will be subtle (most of the time). You will normally see someone being more comfortable in "your" space. Initiating and/or maintaining physical contact (kino, "boobing" etc). Very often they will be more focused on your conversation and talk about personal topics or make positive comments about you. These may not be blatant but just incrementally greater then that persons social norm.

I love Xist and wear it quite often, but normally in combination with an alpha product like BW (AM is another good option). I have very limited exposure to GOA (just got a 30ml bottle). I have found that GOA is very subtle and well buffered and hard to pin down beyond being a feel good juice....you feel good, the people around you feel good and "feel good" stuff just naturally happens.

So to me GOA adjusts the attitude of not just the wearer but those who come into contact with the "cloud". This positive mental attitude is a potentially powerful enabler but really requires the user embrace the upbeat positive attitude the mix draws out.

Xist will work better for a more passive personality (again my opinion). Neither Xist or GOA will normally have blatant "deer in the headlights" type impact like NA and other products can generate. You don't need to ask if NA is working

I second this view, although I also have limited experience with GOA.

Also, keep in mind that GOA has been promoted heavily by one member of this forum, but actually has very few reviews. This same member has responded on each and every PT related post with a PT product as being superior to others. Just something to consider before purchasing a product.

Snoopy has been around long enough to be a known entity. He's got tremendous experience with a wide range of products from different vendors. Each vendor is basically playing with sand from the same box, so the subtlety of the blend is the key component separating each vendor. I think that when you find which vendor works best for your individual chemistry then his/her products will all preform exceptionally well for you.

I can state unequivocally that both GOA and AT are significantly different then what I perceive to be their equivalent mixes (ascend, BW, AM for AT). I am impressed with both but not willing to call either better yet....just different in a good way.

(06-05-2015 7:26 AM)DWR Wrote:  Neither Xist or GOA will normally have blatant "deer in the headlights" type impact like NA and other products can generate. You don't need to ask if NA is working

While I agree with the rest, I'd suggest trying NA at just 1 drop before you consider it a blatant blend - Nude Alpha is both depending on the dose used. At 6 drops, it's one of the most blatant mixes out there IMO. At 1 drop, it takes multiple exposures to start noticing changes in the target(s) - it really gets into their head. Low doses of NA are an entirely different ball game than high doses - both have their uses. The OP would likely be speaking of low doses based on what I've read so far in this thread. At 1 drop, NA is subtler than XiSt, and certainly subtler than any Androstadienone -containing product.

(06-05-2015 7:26 AM)DWR Wrote:  Xist will work better for a more passive personality (again my opinion). Neither Xist or GOA will normally have blatant "deer in the headlights" type impact like NA and other products can generate. You don't need to ask if NA is working

Yes DWR I find this to be true. My personality is more on the passive side of the spectrum. With Xist, I become more active. So far with GOA, I become even more passive and stifled.

(06-05-2015 11:04 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  At 6 drops, it's one of the most blatant mixes out there IMO. At 1 drop, it takes multiple exposures to start noticing changes in the target(s) - it really gets into their head. Low doses of NA are an entirely different ball game than high doses - both have their uses.

I sure would like to hear your thoughts on both uses, E.

(06-05-2015 8:55 AM)theLaw Wrote:  I second this view, although I also have limited experience with GOA.

Also, keep in mind that GOA has been promoted heavily by one member of this forum, but actually has very few reviews. This same member has responded on each and every PT related post with a PT product as being superior to others. Just something to consider before purchasing a product.

are u refering to Kimosbabe?

(06-06-2015 6:13 AM)MMM Wrote:  I sure would like to hear your thoughts on both uses, E.

It's actually quite simple - for dating, I'd consider 1 drop of NA to be appropriate. Any situation where multiple exposures are involved tend to prefer lower doses of NA. Now if it's a ONS or simply making a big one-time impression, going as high as 6 drops can be appropriate (not work or kid safe!) It's a lot like Voodoo in that respect.

Additionally, I feel that at 1 drop, Nude Alpha doesn't stand well on its own. I often enjoyed combining it with SXD-9 and CORE - that was one of my favorites, or better yet, SXD-9 and Evolve. XiSt and Imprint was another combo I had some success with, but it took far too many exposures to start working properly and it wasn't nearly as entertaining as the SXD-9 and Evolve combo! Note that i don't use NA anymore, so I can't comment on its efficacy with P96, though I see no conflict and can imagine the two working together nicely. NA's self-imprinting effect was what caused me to stop using it.

(05-21-2015 5:10 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  ...
Just add Timbersilk for the hitting power of Apex products as well.
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Ekscentra, may I ask you what Timbersilk is? Did you mean it hits very fast or did you mean something else?