(05-12-2015 3:24 PM)pherosloth Wrote:  Steve's P83 is a solid hitter. So far the last werk i have been using it more or less, allows the space reduction that so many people mention. Also i think it also makes the people near you comfortable with being that close as well, at least to some extent. Also, ive noticed a few things with p83 which i will make a thread so i can log in some experiences of my observations. It makes me want to mix in PSE with it, but i want to test out all the stops woth P83, but i also want to test out Androtics' P83 as well if possible. Nothing wrong with Steve's P83, its just i need a bigger bottle as this seems to be one of my favorite putatives now. Ill also need more because i will be testing it with p86 and p96, when i get those, and including PSE and the aforementioned P's. But i want to get these in unscented formats and from the looks idk if Androtics will let that through seeing im new to the community. But people can dream, and for now we just need to settle for what we got atm.

I'm a fairly experienced member and even I'm having to jump through some hoops for this. I'd say just go with neroli 6% for now - most scents overpower it, if not synergize well with it, so it's a good choice. Either way, I've seen your reports - solid enough, and if you put a few of those on PheroTalk, it shouldn't be long before you can order unscented.

On another note, I plan to test very similar combos to the ones you're going for, and I'll likely report back my results here and at DiscoverXS as well. PSE should be here tomorrow if not the next day.

(05-12-2015 4:56 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  I'm a fairly experienced member and even I'm having to jump through some hoops for this. I'd say just go with neroli 6% for now - most scents overpower it, if not synergize well with it, so it's a good choice. Either way, I've seen your reports - solid enough, and if you put a few of those on PheroTalk, it shouldn't be long before you can order unscented.

On another note, I plan to test very similar combos to the ones you're going for, and I'll likely report back my results here and at DiscoverXS as well. PSE should be here tomorrow if not the next day.

So i started testing out PSE again, just to give myself an idea of what its like, used it in conjunction with Kore (2x and 2x of each), and i have some interesting observations. I did a bit of refreshing of PSE and from what i read it appears that PSE has XSR83, which i believe is P83 under a different name (or i could be wrong). Either way if this is true, it would explain the kino increase. Im not sure what the dosages for XSR83 arebin PSE, but if its anything above the 10 mcg range, my 3x 12.5 mcg dose of P83 would push it into the 40+ range. While using PSE again I've come to notice that words which have double connotations, for example hard, come, and other similar words are pronouced much more markedly, even from people you'd least expect, which is what drew my attention in. To me it seemed that Kore upped the mood, and whatever is in PSE made them comfortable enough to be a bit naughty. Is this a mix that is meant to possibly draw out the shy chicks? Or maybe so that one's that aren't so open to display such behaviour? Also i tried it once so far with connections and dear jebus it gets people talking! If my observations are correct though, there seems to be something going on with b-nol, and i want in on it! When i get some free cash to spend, i may actually go for a chem set and test out some of these individual molecules to see what i can mix up. B-nol sounds fun though, as i read that it build rapport, and gets to the heart of things, and that's exactly how i like it!

(08-03-2015 1:03 PM)pherosloth Wrote:  So i started testing out PSE again, just to give myself an idea of what its like, used it in conjunction with Kore (2x and 2x of each), and i have some interesting observations. I did a bit of refreshing of PSE and from what i read it appears that PSE has XSR83, which i believe is P83 under a different name (or i could be wrong). Either way if this is true, it would explain the kino increase. Im not sure what the dosages for XSR83 arebin PSE, but if its anything above the 10 mcg range, my 3x 12.5 mcg dose of P83 would push it into the 40+ range. While using PSE again I've come to notice that words which have double connotations, for example hard, come, and other similar words are pronouced much more markedly, even from people you'd least expect, which is what drew my attention in. To me it seemed that Kore upped the mood, and whatever is in PSE made them comfortable enough to be a bit naughty. Is this a mix that is meant to possibly draw out the shy chicks? Or maybe so that one's that aren't so open to display such behaviour? Also i tried it once so far with connections and dear jebus it gets people talking! If my observations are correct though, there seems to be something going on with b-nol, and i want in on it! When i get some free cash to spend, i may actually go for a chem set and test out some of these individual molecules to see what i can mix up. B-nol sounds fun though, as i read that it build rapport, and gets to the heart of things, and that's exactly how i like it!

You combo'd PSE w/ Connections? When you say it got 'em talkin', it was lots of dirty talk or just normal connections talk?

(08-03-2015 2:12 PM)RTBoss Wrote:  You combo'd PSE w/ Connections? When you say it got 'em talkin', it was lots of dirty talk or just normal connections talk?

A mixture of both. The connections talk was mostly stuff we knew about, informstion she may have had which i was unaware of about various subjects, or just about things we may have discussed before. Also it was almost like she just wanted to talk about something, talkarreah i like to call it. Sometimes ill ask a question and she would go into detail of things, or she would launch into explanations of things going on in a show or movie without cue. PSE showed itself in a way that was subtle. Those words i mentioned before and others had a bit of an emphasis behind it, meaning that they were more pronounced than normal when said them, of course i noticed a few times where body language showed a bit of a reaction to such words with figdeting and shofting positions, and from what i saw, also positions which she would hold a little longer than usual when moving around or a bit more sensual. I think the talkative nature may paryially have been due to nervousness, probably generated by my pheromone signature in congruence with PSE and Connections. I'm going to be wearing 3 sprays PSE today and maybe 3 sprays Connections today and see what happens. I've seen this kind of behavior before when i was using high Androstenone at a certain time of the month, and though the signs were more pronouced with Androstenone and my behaviour under Androstenone and cops, it was nice to see what the signs of attraction from different mixes of products. I may try Connections and Titan soon enough and see how that affects women in their Luteal phase ;D

(08-03-2015 1:03 PM)pherosloth Wrote:  So i started testing out PSE again, just to give myself an idea of what its like, used it in conjunction with Kore (2x and 2x of each), and i have some interesting observations. I did a bit of refreshing of PSE and from what i read it appears that PSE has XSR83, which i believe is P83 under a different name (or i could be wrong). Either way if this is true, it would explain the kino increase. Im not sure what the dosages for XSR83 arebin PSE, but if its anything above the 10 mcg range, my 3x 12.5 mcg dose of P83 would push it into the 40+ range. While using PSE again I've come to notice that words which have double connotations, for example hard, come, and other similar words are pronouced much more markedly, even from people you'd least expect, which is what drew my attention in. To me it seemed that Kore upped the mood, and whatever is in PSE made them comfortable enough to be a bit naughty. Is this a mix that is meant to possibly draw out the shy chicks? Or maybe so that one's that aren't so open to display such behaviour? Also i tried it once so far with connections and dear jebus it gets people talking! If my observations are correct though, there seems to be something going on with b-nol, and i want in on it! When i get some free cash to spend, i may actually go for a chem set and test out some of these individual molecules to see what i can mix up. B-nol sounds fun though, as i read that it build rapport, and gets to the heart of things, and that's exactly how i like it!

There is no XSR83, however there is XSP83. P83 is almost certainly Beta-THDOC based on my experiences, and hence it's listed as a named molecule, not a research molecule.

Have you actually tested PSE on its own, or just in combo with Kore?

(08-03-2015 4:29 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  There is no XSR83, however there is XSP83. P83 is almost certainly Beta-THDOC based on my experiences, and hence it's listed as a named molecule, not a research molecule.

Have you actually tested PSE on its own, or just in combo with Kore?

Idk about beta-thdoc since I've never tried it, but P83 is pretty good for me. I've been wanting to get my hands on some b-nol, and idk which to buy, o far as i know pretty much all mone vendors have the nols, Androstenone, Androsterone and probably the rest of the known main mones. Then again i want to try out more Ps. But i think for me to get a good idea of the extent of everything i am working with i need to go back to basics and work with the main stuff like the nols and dienone and so on. B-nol is my next project.

It's kind of funny. I was just looking at Beta Androstenol on the XS website and almost pulled the trigger. Not sure why I didn't.

(08-03-2015 7:58 PM)HappyGoSkillfully Wrote:  It's kind of funny. I was just looking at Beta Androstenol on the XS website and almost pulled the trigger. Not sure why I didn't.

Yeah, i just revently decided to go back to basics. I've been doing some experimental stuff on dienone, testing various doses, during various days after a shower and it's interesting to note that post shower, the comfort of Androstadienone seems to be very attractive at almost any point in a woman's cycle. Idk about imprinting qualities of LaL's Androstadienone but it seems to do a pretty good job of making people comfortable around me both male and female.there isn't really any a-nol affect until hours later after application, and its effect kind of wears off about 5 hours later from what i can gather. I don't know if it ever gets to that Androstanone point, but I've been testing it after daysbof no showers and the thing that shines from that point is the conversion of Androstadienone to a-nol about 10 minutes or so after exposure.

One thing i can say though, is that the Androstanone seems to have some of the effects of Androstenone, but not as built or swole. Androstadienone has to be one of my favorite mones to use though, that much is certain.

I can't believe I have somehow not heard of PSE until earlier when I was reading up on one of the Alpha threads from the weekend.

I don't have much to offer outside of the fact that I just ordered it and can not wait to try it!

incidentally, it looks like I am going to have to get a 3rd job just to keep up with all of these pheromone orders now...