This is just my personal opinion but to me, it feels very similar to what I remember from A314 rev21. I would definitely hope that if the spray does well enough, that he'd eventually move to an oil version. All I know is I definitely like this mix

Big claim !!

You are tempting me to try this. I just learnt how to use Bad Wolf properly and you bring this. Also, the new tusc. I am not able to test so many product with learning curves.

I will wait till things settle !!

it is a big claim and that's why I keep saying it's just my opinion. Don't want to get folk's hopes up but it gives me respect hits very similar to what I remember from rev21 but without the heavy harshness of it. It's still harsh and in some ways similar to BW but I find 170 to be much more sociable and approachable than BW. Only thing I don't get from it is self effects. But as far as I am concerned, self effects be damned if I'm seeing the effects I want from it on other people. It's been well received enough that Steve moved it into the store as a beta mix, so that's something. I know he was a bit reluctant to give it a go since it's not what he envisioned an alpha blend to be (totally respect him for that). I just mentioned that a lot of folks have been chasing the A314 dragon for a long time and were hoping for something similar if not identical. So, here we are.

Thanks GT, I'm really looking forward to trying this product. Hopefully an oil version is released, I'm not into sprays that much.

Nor am I but the only way I can see Steve producing an oil version is if the spray version proves popular enough to move into limited or regular production. I'd love to see an oil version.

*Bump*
Anybody else testing this ?

M.

Still using it. Just ordered another bottle. Still works well for me. Getting plenty of respect hits without being too harsh. During my yearly appraisal, my boss had given me a high rating due in part to my efforts this year and had pointed out, that he saw me as an equal, versus a subordinate. Never said that before. Could have been XS170, may not have been. I know that since I started using 170, he's been much more responsive towards me and treated me more as an equal instead of his "little buddy". I've managed to go as high as three sprays with no ill effects, both in work and with social settings. Asians, East Indians and the more socially demure have responded well with no noticeable adverse reactions (at least not yet). One person whom I think sees me as a threat to his interest in a friend of mine, has stopped showing up at some social functions if he knows I'm around. This happened to start shortly after I started wearing xs170. Of course, when he's around me, I have to admit, I've been subtly negging him around the woman he likes. A bit of a dick move? Perhaps. Do I care? Na, not really.

As a side note, I've started using ASC from Subliminal-shop.com and over the course of the last week, I've noticed an improvement. I think this has also helped play into what 170 can do. Been doing yearly appraisals last week and this week, I'll report back on how my interactions went with my guys, especially the difficult ones when wearing XS170.

(02-22-2016 8:47 PM)2000GT Wrote:  As a side note, I've started using ASC from Subliminal-shop.com and over the course of the last week, I've noticed an improvement. I think this has also helped play into what 170 can do. Been doing yearly appraisals last week and this week, I'll report back on how my interactions went with my guys, especially the difficult ones when wearing XS170.

Nice, looking forward to seeing how ASC changes things for you longterm.

I have DA on my wishlist - plan on picking it up with my next order.

Finally took XS170 for a test drive today. Unfortunately, this one may not be for me, at least not in its current formulation.

I did three sprays this morning, which perhaps was one too many. (Three sprays of Ascend is generally considered okay, so that's what I based it on.) I then rushed off to the airport to catch a flight to Chicago. Over the next several hours, I found myself very irritated. I fly a lot on business, so I'm accustomed to all the usual frustrations of air travel. But the level of annoyance I was feeling was far disproportionate to the fairly typical inconveniences I was experiencing. I seemed to completely lose my sense of humor for several hours. By the time I got off the flight a few hours later, I had settled down and was back to normal. I did experience a level of respect from those I interacted with but, as far as I could tell, no more so than I would have with regular Ascend. I should mention that I've used lots of "alpha" products, and I don't recall every feeling this level of agitation before.

I had high hopes for this product as I, like many others, am still looking for the next A312. But for me, one of the most important aspects of the old A312 was the sense of trust and warmth it conveyed, and that seems lacking here. To me, it felt sort of harsh and serious, rather than smooth and confident. (Maybe I'm just looking for a bigger boost of androsterone?)

Anyway, that was just my experience. Obviously, YMMV. And I don't want to leap to conclusions based on just one experience. At some point I'll try it again at a lower dosage.

Yeah, 3 seems like a lot for a first run. I got good results with 1/2 a spray of Ascend.