Good point there right_mr - I was considering the reasons why Mustang wouldn't have included it in the mix because its one of the strongest bonding pheromones we have at our disposal. I have run it alongside True Love, a heavy Androstadienone product that has some nols in there and noticed some outstanding effects, but I believe it may take a bit away from the status. I haven't used it long enough to know for sure.

And I rarely use Androstadienone alone because I have some from Alpha Dream -- the stuff is an absolute mood killer... far worse than TL.

I'll probably be picking up singles - Methoxyestratetraenone , Androstanone, Androstadienone , the rones and nols to see how they all jive with it alone.

(07-09-2013 3:13 AM)phertest Wrote:  Good point there right_mr - I was considering the reasons why Mustang wouldn't have included it in the mix because its one of the strongest bonding pheromones we have at our disposal. I have run it alongside True Love, a heavy Androstadienone product that has some nols in there and noticed some outstanding effects, but I believe it may take a bit away from the status. I haven't used it long enough to know for sure.

And I rarely use Androstadienone alone because I have some from Alpha Dream -- the stuff is an absolute mood killer... far worse than TL.

I'll probably be picking up singles - Methoxyestratetraenone , Androstanone, Androstadienone , the rones and nols to see how they all jive with it alone.

What would your dosage of Methoxyestratetraenone be? I've been reading about the issues with potential cancer (aka it's a molecule only found it cancer patients, it makes me a bit scared of tl, lol) would probably not want it at high doses ...

I have noticed some blatant crush effects from females at doses about 100-150mcg+ I think it would be an INSANE combination with XiSt...

Wouldn't want it at any dose. Due to not just the alleged cancer relation but because we simply don't understand enough (Or at least I don't) about its potential estrogenic effects. There are also potential liver toxicity issues with Meo Est.

Yes, the typical quantities applied may seem minute but I prefer to err on the side of caution. I had emailed Gary Nelson from LAL about Meo Est/Est and his response was that he cared about his dick and that he assumed his customers cared about their dicks too, therefore he does not use Meo Est or Est in any of his products.

I don't want to get into a long drawn out debate about this. If someone wants to use the stuff, be my guest, its not my body. For people who want to actually know what they are putting on their bodies- well now you have a bit more to go on.

Meo Est is a substance I only spray on my jacket, not on my skin.
And not very often.

Interesting to hear LAL has no Est in their products at all.
Somehow I was convinced there was Est in Wolf..

Any opinions out there ?

Sorry about the hijack, will never do it again. Never.

(07-09-2013 4:00 AM)ryusei Wrote:  What would your dosage of Methoxyestratetraenone be? I've been reading about the issues with potential cancer (aka it's a molecule only found it cancer patients, it makes me a bit scared of tl, lol) would probably not want it at high doses ...

Good thinking Ryusei, I would not wear it either.
Anyone know a product that contain Methoxyestratetraenone ?
We should wear it on shirt and not on our skin.


Just quick report.

1 sp Xist with A4A 4 dr
Not to elevate Xist

2 sp Xist in club setting is not too good for effect and self effect. Feel a little bit beta in the club setting.

2 sp Xist.... 5 bulb drop NA.... 2.5 sprays from small sample cohesion.
A great clubbing. Many iOis from the high end girls... Sadly many of them have boyfriends with her.
After go clubbing. In the outdoor restaurant
Got a 7/10 girl 25 yo...keep starring at me. After that told the waiter to get me my number... Holy s... But I didn't give her. She is waiting for me outside in her car and beg the waiter to ask me my number. Lol... She is an Asian girl. So she didn't have the gut and feel ashamed to ask directly. The whole rest customers see me as who is this amazing guy second hit is 29 yo hot Asian who work in the bank. 8/10 with a great leg. she ask me to see a movie together with her friend in the next day. She totally digging me...

(07-09-2013 4:17 AM)phertest Wrote:  I have noticed some blatant crush effects from females at doses about 100-150mcg+ I think it would be an INSANE combination with XiSt...

That sounds about the same dosage as the MONE-LOVING Diane said. FACT or FICTION:

"Methoxyestratetraenone - methoxy-estratetraenone: At 150 mcg = INSTANT HORNINESS. Female happy sauce when paired with TAF , P103 and beta -nol . At high doses it can cause mild, but pleasant muscle contractions. Men find it centering and calming. In women it causes a sensual slowing down of sensation and an intense appreciation for all physical stimulation. (Paired with P103 and TAF = best sex ever!)" --- Diane

(07-08-2013 8:11 PM)Mars82 Wrote:  I haven't yet, although it has crossed my mind. Probably after my Overdose + others cycle as today it is OD+XiSt.

Let us know how that goes, Mars. Sounds like a very interesting combination there.

Even though I dont want True Love aka Methoxyestratetraenone on my skin, I am probably going to try it on my hair and wash it off my hands right after I apply it lol. xd I am also asking steve to make me a custom blend of dienone WITHOUT the DHEA/DHEAS I won't say a storm is brewing because thats mustangs line, but I will say a kingdom is in the making ...a kingdom of women who will be crushing over me all day

(07-10-2013 11:25 AM)Ekscentra Wrote:  Let us know how that goes, Mars. Sounds like a very interesting combination there.

Unfortunately, i ran it only once and did not see noticeable results. I will still have to try it again sometime. So far today, I'm having a good run of XiSt+AV+Androstadienone .