(06-19-2015 6:22 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  When I said I tried everything, I wasn't kidding! OD, Primitive, MAX T-150, even DM oil - nothing has worked so far.

What aboit SOB? IME SOB did a very good job of uplifting my mood, and in combination of Ascend, i was that Ascending SOB. I was thinking what if you use something for uplifting your mood, then apply P79 to amplify it, and then cover it with lotion to lenghten it's effect and then apply Voodoo or whatever else? Sounds like a hassle i know, but there has got to be ways to mediate the depression you guys get.

(06-19-2015 7:25 PM)pherosloth Wrote:  What aboit SOB? IME SOB did a very good job of uplifting my mood, and in combination of Ascend, i was that Ascending SOB. I was thinking what if you use something for uplifting your mood, then apply P79 to amplify it, and then cover it with lotion to lenghten it's effect and then apply Voodoo or whatever else? Sounds like a hassle i know, but there has got to be ways to mediate the depression you guys get.

S.O.B. has at least twice as many reports of depression compared to positive self-effects. Aside from this, it just looks like a mediocre, poorly-buffered sexual mix. I think I'll stick to Primitive myself.

As to the P79, keep in mind that'll amplify *all* components in the mix, including the Androstadienone . If that wasn't bad enough, it can have extremely unpredictable results in a complex mix - not a good idea.

I once tried a mix with
Ascend 1 drop
Voodoo 4 drops
P96 30mcg
P86 20mcg
Titan 1 spray and then topped it off with Core

And dear Jebus i was on top of the world! The self effects of the mix was easily described as Self confident with increasing confidence, calm collected, a lot of brainstorming not just about myself and my effects on the class due to observation but the nature of whatever i heard, but it also had me asking questions as well.

The effects on others seemed to be that the class was also calm and collected, but also everytuing seemed to roll through smoothly. There was an equal portion of class time to question and answers interspersed throughout the whole class time, and as the professor was finishing up his stuff for the day it hit 1:15pm exactly. I felt that people left that day rather well learned but content based on the talking that was going on about what we had just learned. Most the time we end early about 5-10 minutes or we end up going over 5 minutes. So it was definitely a noticeable transition from my usualy mone wear.

Towards me, it seemed to hinge upon respect, as well as something akin to "who is this guy again?" As if bately looking at me for the first time. Like if somehow i had an invisibility cloak on me the whole time before, and had it removed. This i know to be Voodoo, and from the first couple days of use i noticed this. The respect factor i know came from Ascend, and idk about other people or maybe it was that combined effort of Voodoo and P86, but it made them keep staring at me like there was something different about me but in an attractive way, this i know cause longer stares and smiles was what i noticed. Not enough to garner sexual attraction ime but enough to get something going, P96 probably helped hold it all together somewhat and i felt its mood upliftment slightly, it may have been a better idea yo add another spray for next time. Could it be that the minor cops in Ascend helped as well? Whatbif inwas to add Androstadienone to this mix? Ill have to wait for testing kike this when i get back in school. For the time being though im beginning testing into some new stuff i got from Apex and continue my Androstadienone testing (after a small break, as well as continuing my testing on the different phases of the woman's menstrual cycle and what mones would best work. Ill keep you all posted.

I think Androstadienone will give me depression.I was using A-1 spray from PXS 8-9 sprays 10mcg/spray and within a hour i have red eyes and feel tired.Its to much? Or i need to stop using this spray? Its seems its strong shit.
Also i feel that i have an umidity cloud arround me.I think another member mention this in a post.Its the same feeling i have.Like i have a 5m radius of cloud and i am really constient of my cloud.I feel umidity on my skin.I only use this 2 times.One on skin and another time on clothes.The same feeling the two times and strong headache after 4-5 hours.
What do you think? All this happening to me with Imprint from Apex also.

Here Tezeus,
regards

(05-31-2017 6:41 PM)Tezeus Wrote:  I think Androstadienone will give me depression.I was using A-1 spray from PXS 8-9 sprays 10mcg/spray and within a hour i have red eyes and feel tired.Its to much? Or i need to stop using this spray? Its seems its strong shit.
Also i feel that i have an umidity cloud arround me.I think another member mention this in a post.Its the same feeling i have.Like i have a 5m radius of cloud and i am really constient of my cloud.I feel umidity on my skin.I only use this 2 times.One on skin and another time on clothes.The same feeling the two times and strong headache after 4-5 hours.
What do you think? All this happening to me with Imprint from Apex also.

Here Tezeus,
regards

Repeated this many times before.

ALWAYS start with ONE. 8 9 Sprays is heaps. That's 80 90 mcg's. That's a "HUGE" dose.

Lemme ask ya something, did ya start walking straight out when ya were born? Same thing mate, ya gotta start with ya first step. Then crawling, then walking, running And jumping.

Ur body (whether in tip top shape or not) can't handle a jump/spike that high.

(06-01-2017 6:48 AM)DrChocolate Wrote:  Repeated this many times before.

ALWAYS start with ONE. 8 9 Sprays is heaps. That's 80 90 mcg's. That's a "HUGE" dose.

Lemme ask ya something, did ya start walking straight out when ya were born? Same thing mate, ya gotta start with ya first step. Then crawling, then walking, running And jumping.

Ur body (whether in tip top shape or not) can't handle a jump/spike that high.

As per usual, Dr C makes a salient point.
A percentage of the percentage of the guys that get Androstadienone negitve selfies can mitigate, if not negate, them through conditioning.
Some cannot.
Eks and Dsouza are examples of ZERO tolerance.
I and others have lessened the severity.
Some by slowly increasing dose and some by nuking themselves with mega doses (for a man).
To my knowledge you can't really "od" a girl with Androstadienone , just yourself. 30-50mcgs seems to be the dosage window.
Be careful with it, some members have been VERY negitively affected by depression.
I find it to be an invaluable must have molecule.

I am sure now that i will try way less.I use that much because was in a bar-restaurante with many ambiental smells.
But many times we only thinking to get a reaccion not how it will affect us.. and with large dose you see if you have a dud bottle or not.
With little steps can you arrive far away. .
DrChocolate i see your point

Here Tezeus,
regards

u will get used to it if u keep using it ,, its kind of hard at first but once u see the girls going like lil deers u will like it more ..

(06-01-2017 5:20 PM)2darkeyes Wrote:  u will get used to it if u keep using it ,, its kind of hard at first but once u see the girls going like lil deers u will like it more ..

This statement DOES NOT apply to everybody.
Be mindful of your outlook/attitude using Androstadienone until you're sure.

I don't really know if i will build tolerance.Even Cohesion give me the read eyes, headache and tired feeling