Hi guys,

looking for a bit of advice, I have been using AV over the past year with very little success.

With or without AV, even before I had heard of mones, when trying it on with a girl, girls would never trust me, always go accused of being in the club every weekend trying it with different girls (definitely not the case), accused of being a player etc.

A female friend mentioned that I look intimidating, I cant change my face, I thought she doesnt know what shes talking about, and if girls are into personalty it doesnt matter anyway, in the end I suppose I gave up.

Now it turns out that that she meant I'm very good looking, and women are intimidated by this, possibly like when we see a beautiful woman.

I have read AV is intimidating as it is, I have experimented with doses from 1-8 drops over the last year, no matter what the dose I never seem to get any IOI at all, yet here I read about guys getting IOI's left right and centre.

The only mone that "seems" to have worked is Androstadienone paired with AV, I havent tried it solo.

I dont mean to sound arrogant, I dont feel good looking as I was brought up to think I was ugly, I found it really difficult to believe I wasnt actually repulsive, that isnt the case anymore and I do feel better about myself.

I am wondering if AV was the wrong choice for me, did actually make women insecure or even arrogant around me, AV alone I got zero hits.

AV plus Androstadienone I started to think maybe mones do have an effect, I admit my game is crap, I'm shy and sometimes my insecurities get the better of me, at present I just want a mone that will give me IOI's and then I can work from there.

Would members of the forum have any expeirence of women being afraid or bitchy when wearing AV, combined with apparently being good looking making women dismiss you?

Thanks

AV can give the impression that your conceited or think your too good for some people, young women especially are intimidated by it.
I'd recommend Nude or Taboo, save the AV for special occasions when you need to make an impression.
Peace, RW

I haven't worn AV, nor am I intimidatingly good looking; however, my guess is a more social product might work better for you. Scent of Eros sometimes makes women open me, I think it's because I makes them feel good and mildly turned on, but doesn't carry any noticable intimidation. That good feeling quells their anxiety and allows them to open you. At least that's my theory.

Do you have any more information? That could be helpful for us to give you some help.

Like how much you usually put?
In what type of environment are you wearing it?

I know some good looking dude, but are really damn geeky; the type that play video games everyday and watch anime.
And some average dude, with games; obviously has become a chick magnet.

I think you might benefit from a more social product with good selfeffects. Wolf fits the bill perfectly. You should consider getting it.

All you need is Androstadienone based product. Pure Androstadienone will do too. Girls will feel comfortable around you. Also Androstadienone cause depression. Please be careful.

Do u seriously need mones if you are that good looking ?

Guys many thanks for the replies!!

Lol I have zero interests in anime and video games, much more of a car person, suppose thats when im happiest but siezed bolts can be a real pain

I have used it it mainly social situations, or dates, I have also used it just going shopping, to see if I would also get hits in shopping malls etc like some of the guys here.

I'm not sure if its just the wrong product for me, being quite shy, or it is infact too intimidating. The girls I go for are all over 25 to early 30's.

I experimented with doses of 1 - 8 drops, unable to find a sweet spot as zero IOI's or reactions, absolutely nothing to make me think AV is having an effect.

I would like to know though, is there a sexual mone that does not cause intimidation?

Thanks

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(11-24-2015 10:24 AM)D_Darko Wrote:  I think you might benefit from a more social product with good selfeffects. Wolf fits the bill perfectly. You should consider getting it.

Thankyou, I wondered if Wolf would suit me better, but reading the Wolf thread it seemed its more a respect kind of mone, I will definitley read up on it again.

(11-24-2015 10:32 AM)kalpan56 Wrote:  All you need is Androstadienone based product. Pure Androstadienone will do too. Girls will feel comfortable around you. Also Androstadienone cause depression. Please be careful.

Do u seriously need mones if you are that good looking ?

Again thanks for the reply, luckily I have no side effects from Androstadienone, maybe because I'm already depressed lol!

Androstadienone with AV worked very well, I used 4 drops AV and 60mg Androstadienone, that was my sweet spot.

In terms of me being good looking, I'm only 5ft10 and I'm not a body builder, it seems women are much more materialistic, money seems to be the best mone, or it is with the women I've come across. Also, having been told I was very ugly most of my life by parent and sister, I dont think I'm able to act as though I beleive I'm good looking.

I also have quite low condfidence, just needed something to give me a boost in the right directions, hence me trying out mones.

I would just like to add, AV 4 drops and Androstadienone 60mg is when I started to recieve IOI's.

Why would that be?

In that case, read up on Black Ops from HAX. It's a great attraction product, contains Androstadienone and has good selfeffects.