Hey pkitty from your definition of yourself, maybe you should try to get something to soften up your vibe. Most men don't like being outdone so that by itself is intimidating.

Showing men your on their level or ever better= Mental intimidation

Large Bust + Corset = physical intimidation

and cops with a sexual boost would be so that guy might have been trying to put you down since you had such a high value vibe to you.

Cops on women tend to make them more attractive

Cops on men give them the impression that they have been with women and smell like them. I don't think a hardcore christian girl would like the idea of being with someone who might give off a player vibe or a vibe that he smelled like another woman. That's just my opinion though.

Hey pkitty. Good to see/hear from you again.

From a biological standpoint, cops raise men's testosterone. Testosterone in men also rises before competitions, and remains high in those men who win the competition. I've heard some other woman on this board (Don't remember who, offhand) say that her yoga instructor was more likely to correct her when she wore the stuff. Asserting /assuming a dominant position is a flirtation pattern for some guys. It may be learned (i.e. Negging a woman who would normally get a lot of attention) or natural/instinctive. I'll second the notion that this guy sounds like he's engaged in a horrible attempt at flirting, and it's probably 'learned' if he's that bad/awkward about it.

For what it's worth, even "negative" reactions can be illustrative of a person's character and inner workings.

(02-03-2013 5:17 PM)pkitty Wrote:  Um, sorry, but you as a guy using cops on a female to attract her has absolutely nothing to do with this situation. And this is the women's board.

I find it highly unlikely/impossible that use of Pheromones or cops could ever make or break a relationship. The way you describe her, it sounds like you're maybe using "The Game" on women, which I think is completely degrading.

Hi Pkitty,

For a noob you have an arrogant attitude. Also it doesn't matter if its the woman's part of the board men can post freely.

Also you are a hypocrite. You want to use cops to entice (GAME) a guy into acting upon the feelings it gives him but when I a guy uses mones to get a woman to act up the emotions it gives her it's considered "Degrading" in your Eyes.

Mones usage has been written about many times on this forum and others for ruining, and making or breaking relationships. But I wouldn't expect you to know about that because you are just an ignorant noob who thinks she knows everything. But if you actually did know everything you wouldn't be here in the first place would you?

Your the one to talk about gaming someone when you are wearing a hidden corset to "Enhance" your features that wouldn't be otherwise enhanced without the corset. LOL

Isn't that false Advertising & Gaming?

Silly girl Negative reps!

(02-03-2013 4:48 AM)pkitty Wrote:  I tend to intimidate men in general due to working as a software developer - many men will initially become very excited/attracted to me but soon after their interest will wane due to a competition thing kicking in and their attraction fizzling out to nothing because they can't handle the fact that I'm "smarter/geekier/better than them".

This quote is an assumption. Nothing more nothing less. The part I put in bold is most likely not intimidation as you perceive but the way you come across to them after a period of time. I can guarantee the majority of men do not just stop talking to you bc you are geekier than them. If this really is true then maybe you need to select better (less competitive) company more suited for you.

Many men I know, including myself, are very attracted to intelligent females. However, I for one cannot stand a female with a bad attitude who overanalyzes negatively and has a chip on her shoulder. Often I will become very excited/attracted but soon my interest will wane and attraction will fizzle out. Sound familiar?
Honestly I cant stand the one up dudes either so I am an equal gender discriminator in that regard.

I do not see anything really wrong with the way the geek guy acted from what you write other than he was socially awkward and maybe had no idea how to deal with you. There are always 2 sides of every coin and if I remember correctly you claim to have already judged him before. Im sure a guy you already say you disliked is going to win you over with anything short of kissing your rear end. Perhaps this is why you got upset. It even sounded like he was trying to make light of the convo at the end with a bad joke, of which you appear to have taken wrong. Big surprise there. More than likely he wasnt running game on you with his wife there.

Then you go on to insult a seasoned pheromone user, and friend of mine who was trying to give you some good advice. Yet your OP says at the end

(02-03-2013 4:48 AM)pkitty Wrote:  ...Thanks ladies (and gents)!

Yet you attack men for attracting females with "game" yet its ok for you to say

Quote:I have a large bust and the corset really makes it more noticeable while enhancing my figure. I was also wearing a fairly tight shirt which made the figure more noticeable.

I fear that you are delusional. How else do you feel a man should court a female with running some form of game on her? Sit there in silence for fear of you taking something he says personally while you express to him how great you are compared to him?

I have seen first hand what cops can do to a relationship. I have also see first hand what the artificial ones can do as well, especially paired with Androstadienone (TL). This gives off a very conflicting signature. Androstadienone taps into the emotional centers of the female brain while cops give the impression of being an in demand male that has recently been with another female. Only whores and broken women are attracted to this signature, not the good classy women.

Neg reps from me for an unnecessary hypocritical attack on a member giving you advice then claiming its a woman's area yet you thank "gents" too at the end of your post. Everyone's voice here is welcome on any part of the board, not just yours. Maybe listening a bit more to what men say can help you more than you think. Best of luck to you and I hope things work out for you.

Couple of things strike me. One you already knew you disliked the guy...why should that time have been any different and why do you blame it on the cops? Maybe you two are just always going to clash. Two, cops cause a massive surge in testosterone, since he is married, it is not appropriate for him to show sexual interest in you. But the testosterone is still there...can lead to aggression. Also there is a thing that happens when you wear a sexual product around people who are not allowed to be turned on by you for societal reasons, they might ignore you, avoid you or go to another extreme, pick on you. I think that's what's happening to you. It seems you have a rather combative personality in general based on how you responded to AS3 ( I am glad none of the men have ever responded to me that way when I post in their forums!), so perhaps that is the true thing to blame, not the cops. Also I think it's far fetched to try a new corseting technique that greatly alters your appearance and then blame it on the cops. Too many factors there to be certain of what is causing what. I have use cops for 4 years and have never gotten a negative response from them.

(02-04-2013 11:59 AM)halo0073 Wrote:  Couple of things strike me. One you already knew you disliked the guy...why should that time have been any different and why do you blame it on the cops? Maybe you two are just always going to clash. Two, cops cause a massive surge in testosterone, since he is married, it is not appropriate for him to show sexual interest in you. But the testosterone is still there...can lead to aggression.

I guess I must be in a brain fog. I missed that part in the OP post. Good points Halo.

I can remember for the first whole eight months when i started experimenting with copulins applications my girl would walk in and became excessively suspicious of everything i was doing, she was getting into all of my emails and checking out my posting on the pheromone forums, yes the cops really did de stabilize her big time she was certain there was other women entrenched in my life, it may seem funny now but at the time it was as if there was a major battle going on, i had to take time to explain to her some of the workings of cops and even i ordered several cops products for her to use, thank goodness it has settled down.

During months of experimentation and wearing copulins i found that men and young men in general would afford me heaps of respect and my mature peers including those way above my social status and also men older than me started to feel the need to explain themselves and their plans and their reasoning to me in depth whenever i was around them and wearing cops, and i am not talking about bent guys here just straight guys and also family men, this was all so very amusing to me at the time to have these men of high social status actually following me around and trying to maintain a connection whilst explaining their methods and reasoning to me in so much great detail, i even walked out of the building once during a meeting and one of the chief execs started following me around the grounds explaining to me the details of a project that he was involved with that had not even been released to the public as yet.... sooooo funny

Wearing New Pheromone Additive/w i did experience some very real hate and bad mouthing from large girls who were butch in nature, they perceived me as a major threat, seen this many times, and yet the same day wearing the same app would get excellent reaction from some young girls and guys, although middle age and older type women tended to keep their distance...

When i first started with this combo Instant Sexiness and Alpha 7 combo ( this was back when Instant Sexiness contained copulins ) i went to a party one night and there was a group of little girls who befriended me whilst the mothers were talking ect ect anyway these little girls a group of them migrated towards me and just lay down beside me for hours like stroking my arms and whispering things in my ear that were too personal for a little girl to be telling a man, they were all competing to be the one to sit in my lap because they were jostling to get as close to me as was possible, i did at the invitation of the mothers come back and visit several times and it would happen over and over again.

Now these little girls were not attracted in a sexual way even though they were opened up to me in a way only a girl would open up to her mother and it is my assumption that the copulins actually presented me as a mother type of man and did cause the bonding effect as if i was a mother because of the cops that i had applied in my experimentation.... anyway just my 3.5 cents ....

(02-03-2013 12:21 PM)as33156 Wrote:  True Love with cops in it totally ruined my life no joke. I was in live with this hardcore Christian polish girl who was a 10/10 virgin who believed she was a five and she really cared for me and we spent tons of time together. I know she loved me to and invited me to attend her church with her and would hug and hold hands with me.

I thought that trying mones would really seal the deal and help her break out of her shell. I got true love spiked with cops and met her at our local used book store/cafe and she acted the complete reverse how she usually acted and just stopped dealing with me and didn't contact me anymore until later this year via email asking how I was.

I hate cops!

gosh i just saw this reply and had to respond.
terrible idea of wearing cops around a virgin.

(02-04-2013 10:13 PM)missjelly Wrote:  gosh i just saw this reply and had to respond.
terrible idea of wearing cops around a virgin.

MissJelly!

I have N.P.A and I'm not Afraid to use it on you. Slimmer down lil lady.

I do apologize to as33156 for the overly aggressive post. It was uncalled for. I was frustrated because it was off topic and that I picked up a vibe of toying with/objectifying women. I don't know the situation at all, so it's not my place to judge.

I don't have a problem with men posting in the women's forum. I do notice, however, that the women's posts in this thread have been more informative, and that makes sense as they've been in similar situations. I would have also been more comfortable with female posters, given the replies here, with posting about the corsetting/bust size.

While I do apologize for making the comment and any harm that it may have caused, I feel that the backlash against me for it (mostly by men, see that another woman posting was also confused by the off topic) shows a degree of sexism and objectification of women that I initially picked up on and was triggered by in as33156's post in the first place. I'm not going to pretend I don't know something for fear of turning off a man. Not everything women do is to toy with men in the least. The only reason I'm using pheromones at all is to help with my own personal self confidence and hopefully create a more relaxed social environment. So that's why I posted - trying to troubleshoot! The only reason I'm corsetting is to help with back problems, and also confidence/anxiety. I also initially posted that I'm bi - and the posters didn't know about that, or even if I was attracted to men at all.

I do admit that I have little to no experience in this area, but I think it's very dangerous territory to blame major events such as breakups/etc. just on pheremones. Just as this situation had many factors (and I wouldn't just say Oh, it was the cops that caused it!) most social situations do, and even if a phero blend was 75% of the reason (which I still am skeptical about) there are always other factors. I feel that blaming things like that is a slippery slope that could lead to downplaying one's own role in the situation. I've certainly been in situations where without any Pheromones people have acted so strangely, that if I were wearing them I may try to rationalize the situation away. Sometimes there is no answer...

I do understand that using a blend with cops could give off the wrong idea, and I should have made it more clear about my intent - as far as I understand Achar is a very light cop blend. I should have gone with Glace, but every time I go to buy it I have a change of heart and try a different blend. I did get a sample, but it was in such a small vial it was hard to use.