would anyone have any other opinion to my question

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If i was to pick just 1 pheromone whick would u choose

The short answer is 'No.'

That is not how women are wired. They play their part in the mating game and you play yours. I could go into a long explanation, but simply put, women attract and men act.

Women let you know they're interested with all kinds of subtle clues, but leave it to the man to do the chasing. This is true for approximately 99.99% of would-be romantic encounters between strangers, lol.

All pheromones will do is make those clues more obvious and appear in greater numbers. You still have to act on those messages women give you.

Musk

(04-06-2012 8:04 AM)jaytop21 Wrote:  Is there any pheromones that make women approach u?

thanks

(04-06-2012 8:04 AM)jaytop21 Wrote:  Is there any pheromones that make women approach u?

thanks

Jaytop ...

the other members have already posted it ..

mones can soften the bumps in the road .. but they are not the kinda shortcut you´re looking for !

Wingman X indeed increases your chances with women but from the kinda game you wanna do it wont take you far ..

what you do is simply hit and miss .. that´s all !!

no mone in the world will get you what you are searching for .. mones are tools and there´s a learning curve .. it´s not spray on ... and you find yourself as an actor in an AXE commercial !!

Pago

(04-07-2012 6:50 AM)jaytop21 Wrote:  If i was to pick just 1 pheromone whick would u choose

Where will you be using it?
What are you aiming toward alpha/ social/ sexual?

1. well can anyone who has tried wingman element x (green label) tell me what kind of results they got from day game approaches?

2. so u r saying the pheromones only work on women that already like u?

3. would approaching during the day using wingman element x (green label) talking for 10mins to 20 mins with fluff talk and instant date increase success?

4. I was really thinking of buying wingman element x (green label) so can experienced users of it tell me how u used it and what type of success u got from it during daytime approaches

thanks

(Yesterday 4:22 PM)Alpha Dream Wrote:  

Just the same i feel !!

There are some moments in life .. and this was just one of those moment when i´d read the last post from this boy ..

where i really not know what to say ...

jaytop .. it looks like you don´t get it !!!!

Go reread all the answers you did get here in this thread and think about it ...

if anybody wants to waste more time in telling you that what you are doing is the wrong approach .. o.k.

but for my part ... it´s wasted time with you !!

Pago

is there anyone that can answer my question, i never used pheromones so im asking experienced user questions so that they can lead me in the right direction.

If u feel like ur wasteing ur time then don't answer the question and don't tell me about my game

Atleast its straightforword and up front and not wasting time with women that are not interested

Didn't (re)read the rest of it, but here goes:

(Yesterday 3:20 PM)jaytop21 Wrote:  1. well can anyone who has tried wingman element x (green label) tell me what kind of results they got from day game approaches?
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2. so u r saying the pheromones only work on women that already like u?
No. They work on strangers as well. Probably even a bit better, as they convey some kind image of you.

3. would approaching during the day using wingman element x (green label) talking for 10mins to 20 mins with fluff talk and instant date increase success?
Very likely. I've rarely seen any mix reduce your chances with women, though some socials can make it harder to build sexual tension.

4. I was really thinking of buying wingman element x (green label) so can experienced users of it tell me how u used it and what type of success u got from it during daytime approaches
There's a bit of a review: http://pherotruth.org/Thread-Wingman-Ele...ight=green
Probably rather social?

thanks

Or you could do some reading and go with the forum favorites.

Listen Jaytop, I'm going to try and help you out by giving your a recommendation on the Pheromones, but you also really need to work on your apporach. Hopefully this will answer enough so you don't need to keep asking the same things.

Ok first of all without the correct approach, you can smell like liquid sun rays and you will still not improve your chances by any significant number. It's not the idea beghind your apprach, it is the way your doing it. Direct approachis risky, but you're right, it can work and it can get you good results, however direct does not mean you don't need to be subtle, or let me give you a better word: smooth.
If you go up to a lady and immediately ask her out she is going to have to make a decision about you without knowing much, so what you say and how you say it is everything.

Here's what your saying: "excuse me, I find u are very (any of these words, attractive, beautiful, pretty, ect) and I think that you and I should share each others company in the next 2 to 3 weeks."

First, you're already telling her that because she is beautiful you think you should spend time with her. BAD MOVE. This says: "I am a man who is impressed only by looks and a pretty face is all it takes to impress me".
Change that to an adjetive that is vague enough that she can't know for sure her looks are what captivated you. Attractive is a better word, but you're still not there.
How about saying:
-"Hi, I just saw you from over there and was captivated by you" or "I just really wanted to meet you."
or
-"Hi i just saw you from over there and thought you looked absolutely stunning" (this still might work because stunning is leaves enough room that it could mean that her looks weren't necessarily what you thought were stunning, but her poise, her energy, her fashion, etc. In other words, there is doubt of what you meant and doubt = mystery , mystery = curiosity , and curiosity = attraction.

Next, you wrote that you are saying "you and I should share each others company in the next 2 to 3 weeks". BAD MOVE AGAIN.
why? Because although it is good to be specific when you ask a girl on a date thi time frame is awkward, long, and just plaing strange. Instead of making you look decisive of what you want (which would work if you said "this weekend") you are putting pressure on the girl by saying she has to decide not only if she's going out with you, but if she's going out with you during that strangely specific time frame. I would advise to not put a time frame at all when you just started talking to her for the simple reason that you are asking her to make another specific choice when the first one is big enough. Instead I'd just go with "I'd like to get to know you better". It leaves her with the feeling of her not being pressured into anything and maybe having the chance to even decide to when she wants to continue to get to know you.
After you say "I'd like to get to know you better" or something along those lines switch her focus from making the decision immediately and start small talk. This will give you time to attract her and for the pheromones to affect her. After a successful small conversation be the first person to say you actually have to go, but would like to see her again. She will either say yes and give you her number or you can just ask for it. The whole interaction should take no more than 5 minutes so it is direct anc to the point, yet not short enough that it is forceful and seems like your making her make a choice about a complete stranger. You will find the answer will almost always be no if you do it this way. The way I'm telling you to do it will help you succeed noticibly more as long as you have good social skills.

Now for the pheromone: I'd go with a social, not a sexual. You don't want to appear predatory in this type of situation and you don't want to appear like you're looking just for sex. Night is different than Day. During the night we feed our shadows and primal desires, but during the day we look for connection and good energy.

Go with Glace by Alpha Dream (Fast Burn glace would be even better). It's a social that doesn't lower your status. If you know element X is well buffered, try it out and let us know how it works; if at HAX they said it would be good for day game, they have enough products to not need to reccomend a wrong one. However make sure they gave you a reccomendation knowing that it was direct day game approach and not direct night game approach.
Besides Glace I'd say you might want to try Hypnotica Social and Charisma by Love Potions. The latter should work quite well as well, but , get it in alcohol form so the diffusion is quicker.

Good luck and hurry up and get out there!