(07-09-2015 1:49 PM)dsouza Wrote:  @happygoskillfully

The question is will you still get sexual hookups with l2k v1 H
?

Am-h seems to be a social and now a sexual dud.

Luckily I have a full bottle of old l2k v1.. I'll be rationing it!

Dsouza

Are you solely basing your opinion of AM-H being a social, on Paradox's review?

(07-09-2015 2:05 PM)SeekingSuccess Wrote:  Are you solely basing your opinion of AM-H being a social, on Paradox's review?

Paradox said he tested it for 4 weeks or more. That is A LOT of time to test closing and its sexual side.. Old AM worked perfectly for him for closing.

HIS PUA skills are TOP notch being a PUA forum moderator in past etc.

So its is the new AM.

Watered down to social.

If it worked before and doesn't now and hasn't on him through so many tests why should I not believe its now less sexual?

Which pretty much sucks because Chris went and added H and God knows what others changes to L2k v1 and others.

It is still to be seen if L2k v1 H is no longer sexual too. We need more reports.

If AD simply offers the old formulas in addition to the revised H forumulas we will all be more calm and willing to test out H without all the panic and disappointment in the community.

The fear of being stranded is what's messing everyone up.

Chris has to be rational now and make a good decision. His decision could save his business or put it in the same fate of what happened to Androtics when they went and fucked up a314...


dsouza

I am saying that it is clearly not just a bisexual product. I haven't even seen a hint of it being bisexual. For me it works pretty much as it is described on the website - License To Kill (fuck).

I agree that it remains to be seen if the Hedione fucks that up or not. One guy (sorry, forgot who) has a thread that he reports no real differences between the two.

maybe it was joris06...

Ok,here is my side of the LIIK story:

After reading TwistedOstrich's review (http://pherotruth.org/Thread-L2kv1-My-Best-Mix-of-2012) I decided to make the purchase.

After trying LIIK i found that it was not working for me. I contacted TwistedOstrich to get some tips on use and to find out what was up with my lack of results. He admitted to me that he had been unable to duplicate the results in his post.

He told me he had been wearing his normal dose and had gone on a date the week prior to our conversation and nothing happened. So, we put our heads together to try and figure out what was happening with the formuls and why it was not consistent.

He came up with the theory that LIIK works best on women who are already wild and disinhibited. At the time we decided that it must be the case.

I went on to test other products and eventually came back to LIIK. I still couldn't get it to work so I reread TwistedOstrich's post to search for clues. I noticed that his big fling was with a pornstar ans another girl. Both were bisexual. Reading further I noted that he went to what he thought was a regular bar but it turned out to be a lesbian bar. TwistedOstrich's big successes were with bisexual women.

The ingredients for LIIK v2 were listed as:

LIIK v. 2 is finalized. For all DIYers ill give some insight on the formula..

Per bottle:

4.5 mg Androstadienone
2.75 mg none
3.25 mg androstAnone
9 mg DHEAS
12 mg alpha androstenol
xx micrograms androsterone sulphate potassium : D
1 unlisted ingredient
1 secret ingredient

Ethanol, PG, DPG, 10% deionized water

Version 1 and 2 have similar formulas with some changes and different ratios.

EST did not become a suspect in my mind at that time because I was not aware of it and what it was. I wrote it off as just another $70 bottle that didn't work.

Great reports about LIIK continued to be posted but I moved on.

I don't know why LIIK doesn't work for me to this day but I do know that P83 which is a purported to be a disinhibitor does not work for me. AV which I suspect has whatever P83 is in it does not work for me.

This is why I tempered my review of AM-H with a list of products that don't work for me. It could be that they all have a common ingredient that does not work on my targets or does not work with my chemistry.

(07-09-2015 6:05 PM)Paradox Wrote:  Ok,here is my side of the LIIK story:

After reading TwistedOstrich's review (http://pherotruth.org/Thread-L2kv1-My-Best-Mix-of-2012) I decided to make the purchase.

After trying LIIK i found that it was not working for me. I contacted TwistedOstrich to get some tips on use and to find out what was up with my lack of results. He admitted to me that he had been unable to duplicate the results in his post.

He told me he had been wearing his normal dose and had gone on a date the week prior to our conversation and nothing happened. So, we put our heads together to try and figure out what was happening with the formuls and why it was not consistent.

He came up with the theory that LIIK works best on women who are already wild and disinhibited. At the time we decided that it must be the case.

I went on to test other products and eventually came back to LIIK. I still couldn't get it to work so I reread TwistedOstrich's post to search for clues. I noticed that his big fling was with a pornstar ans another girl. Both were bisexual. Reading further I noted that he went to what he thought was a regular bar but it turned out to be a lesbian bar. TwistedOstrich's big successes were with bisexual women.

The ingredients for LIIK v2 were listed as:

LIIK v. 2 is finalized. For all DIYers ill give some insight on the formula..

Per bottle:

4.5 mg Androstadienone
2.75 mg none
3.25 mg androstAnone
9 mg DHEAS
12 mg alpha androstenol
xx micrograms androsterone sulphate potassium : D
1 unlisted ingredient
1 secret ingredient

Ethanol, PG, DPG, 10% deionized water

Version 1 and 2 have similar formulas with some changes and different ratios.

EST did not become a suspect in my mind at that time because I was not aware of it and what it was. I wrote it off as just another $70 bottle that didn't work.

Great reports about LIIK continued to be posted but I moved on.

I don't know why LIIK doesn't work for me to this day but I do know that P83 which is a purported to be a disinhibitor does not work for me. AV which I suspect has whatever P83 is in it does not work for me.

This is why I tempered my review of AM-H with a list of products that don't work for me. It could be that they all have a common ingredient that does not work on my targets or does not work with my chemistry.

Do you feel old AM mixed with regular burn glacé is just as useless to you? Have you tried 2 sprays old am 3 sprays glacé and come to same conclusion as l2kv1?

(07-09-2015 6:28 PM)dsouza Wrote:  Do you feel old AM mixed with regular burn glacé is just as useless to you? Have you tried 2 sprays old am 3 sprays glacé and come to same conclusion as l2kv1?

I've never tried Glace

(07-09-2015 6:58 PM)Paradox Wrote:  I've never tried Glace

Just saying I get sexual vibes from Am glace combo too and glace contains est.. Most of these women are older with kids.. I highly doubt they're bisexuals.

I think l2k v1 will work just as easily pulling straight women for me.

Tommorrow I'm heading out with old l2k v1 and possibly having a coffee date.. I'll be able to have an idea if my 10/10 date is puzzled or derailed by it as she doesn't seem bi/les at all.

dsouza

(07-09-2015 7:50 PM)dsouza Wrote:  Tommorrow I'm heading out with old l2k v1 and possibly having a coffee date..

Do you get any Androstadienone depression from L2K?

(07-09-2015 9:13 PM)metaltree Wrote:  Do you get any Androstadienone depression from L2K?

Not anymore, but sometimes next day lethargy. Last time I wore it I got MILD depression 2 days after which lasted for only a few hours and very little lethargy... I don't really care as I only wear it on special occasions (dates) not often, and I can live with the mild sides if they show up the next couple of days.

dsouza

Well Paradox, you are not alone with L2k... As I've heard of some others not getting results with it. Sometimes I wonder if my flirting has a lot to do with my success with mones, and YES... It does.

But I've been opened quite a few times with L2k, by women in 20's to upper 40's just by minding my own business. And it's one of the products I have had women blatantly flirt with me in DAY game... Arousal evident! This and Taboo have had women (in my experience) open up easy and flirt in a non sexually charged environment...I was able to seduce my tax preparer once, on the job, as she was planning how she would seduce me in her own apartment! Shocking the things she told me!
1 spray is my normal dosage.

Man dsouza! I would would be salivating at the opportunity to have a one on one with a 10/10, and with L2k at my disposal? It's a product I'm confident with in that situation.