where they will make eye contact in the streets, and then look away, and perhaps try to check you out again. basically give you attention.

androstenone, androstanone or androsterone?

as a side note, i am enjoying androstanone quite a bit, makes me feel masculine.

Well, body language will do more than mones will when walking down the street. There's too much wind to help keep your mones at close distance. If you walk with a slouch, that will say a lot about your confidence. Confidence is more of a turn on than anything else to a woman and how you hold yourself, walk, speak, etc. All of these things will help get you noticed. Once you have them within close proximity, mones will help but you still need to keep their attention after you get it.

true about confidence.

but how about in a closed environment? also the streets i'm on are hot and humid, so that counts for something.

My Mother was a strickler for us (four boys) brushing our teeth. Every woman that I have ever had a relationship, has said my smile is what they notice about me first. So of course when I see or meet a woman that I'm intersted in , the very first thing I do is flash a smile at then within three to five minutes of meeting then.

Most of the time Pheromones has nothing to do with Ignition. With me Pheromones is more like a confirmation.

alright .. we have body language .. we have good mood and smiles...

now the concept of Peacocking plays a role as well ..

nice cloth .. etc .. etc ...

concerning mones .... they will notice you .. but what do you gain from women staring at you ..

most products that creates stares from women are the hardest to transist into something that takes you further .

it´s an two edged sword ....

Pago

I've been working heavily on body language -- I've seen some good results, I would say nearly everybody can benefit from learning some body language techniques.

One of the most simple techniques I started with was something an Actor turned PUA mentioned. He said the first step is to get your back against a wall, and bend your knees a little and put your full weight against the wall, it will create a very flat and upright profile -- Remember how this feels, and walk around a little as if your back was STILL against the wall, It was an *IMMEDIATE* improvement on my body language.

The next step (and probably the hardest step for me) was shoulders. Keep them relaxed, make sure they aren't 'up' in any way, and hold them back just a little bit. (Or a lot, depending how bad your posture is).

Third, keep your chin up! Keep your eye's level with the horizon, if not just a smidgen above it.


These three simple things will push you in the right direction, there's a LOT of really good body language stuff out there, keep up the self improvement,
~Gojira.

AV IME is the mix that gives me the most attention by far. AM also makes women notice me more. Probably Wolf and the True Alpha body spray also turned some looks onto me.

Some reports about Androstatrione suggest that it gets attention.

Though really, like Pago said, the attention grabbers may not be too easy to use. AV is a tricky one for instance.

(01-28-2012 6:41 PM)idontknow Wrote:  AV IME is the mix that gives me the most attention by far.

You know, outside of a very few looks during the day the only time AV's effects really stood out was partying. It seems if I wear it in a low key situation (like a coffee shop during the afternoon, or a grocery store) I don't notice any interest or IOI's.

When there's alcohol and music, Kino, IOI's, etc etc...

Women notice everything around them. It's a question of what makes them want to linger their attention on you.

If on the surface you are uninteresting, they WILL lose interest.

Simple fact.

If you have an air of mystery to arouse them, they will take more notice of you.

Simple.

(01-28-2012 2:32 PM)photogeek Wrote:  Well, body language will do more than mones will when walking down the street. There's too much wind to help keep your mones at close distance. If you walk with a slouch, that will say a lot about your confidence. Confidence is more of a turn on than anything else to a woman and how you hold yourself, walk, speak, etc. All of these things will help get you noticed. Once you have them within close proximity, mones will help but you still need to keep their attention after you get it.

Most likely mones do work at a range beyond that of scent. And one certainly does not need to be in close proximity to benefit from them (not just because of self-effects).