I've notices that pheromonexs and love potion both include Beta-AndrostANOL in female products but not in the male products.
Only L2K v.1 and Glace seem to have this in them.
Any idea why it isn't included in the male products elsewhere?
The molecule:
http://pherotruth.org/Thread-General-Sum...Molecule-A
B-nol would be found in most social and mild Alpha mixes. It's almost in all of Hax products.
B-nol is very feminine indeed. It brings out feelings of trust and disinhibition in what is said by both males and females.
I'm not saying that with b-nol you will be more beta or feminine or that it will take away from sexual or alpha mixes but rather that it brings out trustworthiness and emotional closeness. It's fantastic with A314 for sales or job interviews (same thing). Good to add some for an attraction mix for a date with a woman you want to pursue. It does bring people emotionally closer and make it feel like you have a connection .
If I use to much I at times feel the need to say what's on my mind.
If you want to know what's on your woman's mind, use some B-nol and a few drinks and watch out. Often in the morning they won't believe what they told you. I have heard " we should be married so we can merge our finances" or on gal started crying and told me " I feel so guilty , I have been trying to get pregnant on you" of course by next morning I could see in their face that they spilled the beans but acted so innocent .
Glacé is good all purpose social but IH from AD is a B-nol specific product with drivers to enhance it so you can use as much as you like.
Women love B-nol for the self effects I'm sure. Used wisely it's a great tool for men too. Not day to day though.
Most mixes you buy will have a little B-nol for trust enhancement.
Get it in your mone tool belt.
He said beta-androstanol, not beta-androstenol. As far as I know I only have products containing the latter. The former could be present in some, i.e. HAX-stuff where the contents are undisclosed.
Jolly is correct: I'm asking about Beta-AndrostAnol otherwise known as "molecule A". It was originally made public by Chris following a blind molecule test. It may or may not have been one of AD's putatives (someone in the know might be able to chime in).
Steve includes it in several women's products but no men's. I'm curious as to why. The chemistry of this stuff is really interesting to me as of late.
The only male product I see with this molecule in it is L2K v.1.
Awhile back a member was using mega doses to calm down her boyfriend then somehow it gets labelled feminine either from the blind tests or from the above observation. Hence the possibility of it being in female products.
Just speculation here. However, I have tested the shit out of this molecule and have found no calming on me or anyone else and no feminine feel.
(02-13-2014 9:20 AM)thundr Wrote: [ -> ]Awhile back a member was using mega doses to calm down her boyfriend then somehow it gets labelled feminine either from the blind tests or from the above observation. Hence the possibility of it being in female products.
Just speculation here. However, I have tested the shit out of this molecule and have found no calming on me or anyone else and no feminine feel.
Thundr, what would you say where the main differences between B-enol and Beta androstanol
Damn
read it to fast but it looks like the thread opened up a door and peeps learned something.
There is some information, although sparse, in the single molecule section B- androstANOL
B-androstANOL is also listed as an ingredient in glace.
FD
Correct. I'm hoping someone knows why only Chris has it in a male/unisex product. He's the one that brought it to market first and conducted the blind test. Subsequently he added it to glace and used it in L2K v.1. Upon further inspection the women's LPMP blend that has it was blended by Chris as well.
Only Steve seems to list it in ingredients and he doesn't have it in men's products. It is in women's cohesion, tease, temptress, and innocence.
Just trying to satisfy a curiosity here since the single molecule reports didn't seem to feminize the molecule.
(02-13-2014 8:11 PM)pharoahman Wrote: [ -> ]Just trying to satisfy a curiosity here since the single molecule reports didn't seem to feminize the molecule.
I don't think it does, either. It is almost the same as Fishdude answered in the second post.
The thing with Beta-AndrostAnol, as I see it, is that differently from Beta-AndrostEnol, it doesn't create the feeling that you or the target
need or
want to tell something. Rather, it just makes you or the target
say something without giving it too much importance. I've noticed the same thing on a lesser scale with Beta-Androsterone.
I think b-nol is more in the sense of telling "secrets" and b-stAnol is more in the sense of saying what's on your mind.
The reason I think it is not included in most men's products is that, even though it would disinhibit you enough to say what you wanna say or do what you wanna do, like in a neg, it would simmilarly disinhibit your target enough to counter-neg you, giving you the impression that the mix ellicits disrespect, depending on your attitude. As most men's mixes are formulated towards the "alpha image", the target would be more inclined to counter-alpha your attitude, producing the opposite effect.
I've been counter-negged before with B-Stanol solo, though I'm inclined to think it can help a lot when in a mix, if well balanced.
I've also had the impression that it works more in the sense of disinhibiting
actions than disinhibiting speech itself. I see speaking as part of acting as well, but I haven't felt the same inclination towards action with Beta-AndrostEnol. Hence my remark.
Thank you FSH. That makes a lot of sense.
Your explanation is congruent with the LPMP blend (
Gotcha!), which is designed to get men to take action to make a move - it has Beta-AndrostAnol as the first ingredient.
I'm guessing that it plays a role in the disinhibition/comfort of L2K, but that the blend is well balanced so that it doesn't result in disrespect. Probably one of the things that contributes to the uniqueness of L2K.