Hi, I'm new here and wanted to know, how do you test your new products.
Which places do you prefer for testing and which kind of pheromone do you test where?
I guess you start with a low dosage of only one product, like one drop or one spray, and increase it step by step, right? Do you do this on the same day after some time (when you got no reaction) or do you start on a different day with a higher dosage? Btw. is there a way to find out how much peromones produce myself.
What is an average time you can expect the first signs of a hit?
Do you think it's possible, that peromones can affect others in a range of 5 meter when you're outside? I got nice smilings in the past from women (> 30) when I was wearing something like AV and they were 5 meter away from me and came closer (we both were out for a walk). When they were just 2 meter away from me, they couldn't look longer into my eyes and looked on the ground. Recently I asked one something and she showed no reaction and just walked away (but still had a big smile in her face). Maybe I overdosed AV, because it was before I found this forum here and probably was wearing 3-4 drops or so. All happened in around 5 seconds. I can't imagine, that AV hits so fast, or am I wrong?
Do you test it with your friends first, where you know their usual behaviour? Or do you prefer crowded locations (clubs, shopping malls, ...) where you could leave anytime e.g. when you OD, but you don't know the most people there? Or do you do your tests at work? I work in a company with a high women rate, but in my office are only a few men. So I meet the women mostly during lunch or some irregular meetings, or when I get some coffee or tea. In my office I'm already notorious because I say what I mean - to everyone - even my boss
I would say, wearing sexual pheromones doesn't make sense at my work, because most of the time, I'm just with men. Do you agree? What do you recommend me?
Today I was wearing 1 drop unscended AV and 4 sprays Glace in the office. There was only one girl that looked and acted a little bit more shy then usual. No reaction for all others (men + women). What do you expect recommend to do now? Try with the same mixture tomorrow again, use more or don'T wear new pheromones (I read, that sometimes it's hard to wash the pheromones away).
Because I don't know it better, I reapply 1 dr AV + 3 spays glace now after (12 hourse) and go shopping.
I usually test in public first, to see if there are any really bad reactions. Do I stink to some people? Do I need a cover scent? Does this particular cover scent work? Do people find me aversive and walk away? Do some age ranges find me more aversive than others? I'll usually wear stuff at the grocery store checkout line a number of times before testing with friends. It's not the ideal place and people aren't near me long enough to judge most responses, but I want to avoid the worst bad reactions from people I see every day.
I'd avoid high doses of Androstenone in the office. It's likely to do more harm than good.
Mones can travel a long distance if the air is still, but in that case people are less likely to tie the reaction back to you. Especially if there are other people around.
(06-26-2013 11:41 AM)wiserd Wrote: [ -> ]I usually test in public first, to see if there are any really bad reactions. Do I stink to some people? Do I need a cover scent? Does this particular cover scent work? Do people find me aversive and walk away? Do some age ranges find me more aversive than others?
I'll definitely look more on the different age ranges from now on. I made only a difference between men and women until now.
(06-26-2013 11:41 AM)wiserd Wrote: [ -> ]I'll usually wear stuff at the grocery store checkout line a number of times before testing with friends. It's not the ideal place and people aren't near me long enough to judge most responses, but I want to avoid the worst bad reactions from people I see every day.
I'd avoid high doses of Androstenone in the office. It's likely to do more harm than good.
Mones can travel a long distance if the air is still, but in that case people are less likely to tie the reaction back to you. Especially if there are other people around.
The grocery store or book store, where you can read magazines, are my favorite locations too.
The checkout line is most of the time very short, so there's not really much time to test the mones. Especially when they are unscent like the ones I have until now. So I had not much real reactions until now - neighter good nor bad.
At least in the book store I could see, that they didn't ran away, and read their magazine next to me. But most of the time, there are older women or men there. Maybe I go there and check it again at a different time.
Nice things about the grocery line;
1. Get in line behind someone with a long line of groceries and you can stand near the cashier for a minute or two as the person in front of you checks out.
2. You can see how the cashier interacts with the people who go before you, for comparison.
3. It's part of a daily routine, so it doesn't waste time.
4. The clerks seem to make it a habit of chatting with people who are checking out, so there's a regular bit of non-awkward socially required conversation at close range. Conversation makes testing a bit more reliable because you can judge a person's emotional state better if they're actively trying to engage you in conversation. Perhaps that person walking away from you just has a higher need for personal space? Or are they avoiding you specifically because of mones? It's hard to tell and I don't like intruding on anyone's comfort zone. But the cashier will always be comfortable with someone buying groceries, distance-wise, so a reaction specifically to you is more likely a mone reaction.
Sure, it wastes product to apply mones primarily for a 1-minute interaction. But sometimes a bit of information is worth a bit of cash.
Just my 2c.
I'd like to add on to wiserd about cashiers - if you have time, an even better testing ground is at clothing stores for men. They usually hire attractive women to help sell their stuff and hit on guys on purpose to get them to buy stuff. Its a little more skewed, but you will still be engaging a women for a reasonable period of time in conversation at close range.