(10-18-2014 12:19 PM)RussianWolf Wrote:  Why don't you buy some and find out yourself???

(10-18-2014 1:59 PM)paradigmshift Wrote:  When shes says whenever im around you , you make me wet...

Its placebo.

(10-18-2014 7:21 PM)RussianWolf Wrote:  Alright Law.. I'll bite.

The first time I wore Aqua Vitae to work, from Liquid Alchemy Labs... this woman whom I've worked with for 3 years on a daily basis, says to me, "Wolf, are you wearing some kind of pheromones or something? Cause suddenly I've got all these feelings for you that I've never had before."

Of course I blow it off, like, "What are pheremones?"

She's 15 years younger and built like a brick shit house. At the time I'm forty pounds overweight.

A few days later she pulls her pants down to show me her heart tanned on her ass... getting it right in front of my face.
Two weeks later, after being consistently exposed to me wearing AV, we almost have sex on the surgery table... only thing stopping me, was that her boyfriend was outside in the parking lot waiting for her to get off work.
I had worked with this woman for over three years on a daily basis and she never showed any hints of interest... until the day I wear pheremones.

Then the day my boss took me out to eat as I had given my two week notice. His daughter and her husband also come, along with their children. I'm wearing AV again... before dinner is over, bosses daughter comes all the way over to my side of the table and sits down, staring at me, like I'm the most interesting man in the world, eyes like a deer in the headlights... all the while twirling her hair --- Again, a woman i've know for many years, never showing any interest... and now, in front of her husband and kids, is showing a crazy interest in me - made me really uncomfortable...

That was just the beginning of my pheremone journey... since then I've had too many "hits' to recount

I also used it to my advantage at work not long ago, as I requested time off and was told No, in an informal letter. So I go to upper management, all women - wearing AV -- Again, lots of dilated pupils, intense interest, and hair twirling -- within ten minutes, I'm golden.

But the only way for you to resolve your doubt, is to buy some and check it out for yourself.

p.s.
I'm currently on my 3rd bottle of AV

(10-18-2014 8:37 PM)RussianWolf Wrote:  Law,
No... when i worked in the veterinary field, and there were 15 sick patients to be treated, 7 surgeries to prep, a waiting room full of people and animals, a dog is brought in after being hit by a car, bleeding on the table while the owners screaming and crying and the telephone is ringing every 3 minutes... you don't have time to think about pheremones... you forget all about them.

But really, what you're doing -- is calling everyone on this forum an Idiot. And personally, I find it disrespectful.

(10-17-2014 11:40 AM)theLaw Wrote:  ***It may be helpful to provide examples that are unusual given a particular social context- like a medical professional doing something overtly sexual***

(10-22-2014 10:58 PM)Mars82 Wrote:  I think I know where Law is coming from. This thing also crossed my mind before I started with mones. Out of curiosity based on some readings I made, I decided to "invest" in phereomones. My first one was Nexus. Other than the nice smell, it did nothing for me, so I thought "placebo" as I sprayed more than what was recommended. Then when I took a plane and experienced a panic attack as the doors closed, I decided to do some more research as this was quite weird. I'm used to taking flights so there was no reason for the panic attack. Garry told me that it was quite common for people who are using mones for the first time. Other than this, I did not receive IOI's, Deer in the headlights, or any of the stuff that others claim to do.

After some more reading, I decided to give mones another shot, and placed an order with LAL, composed of NA and HS. Garry sent me samples of AV, Wolf and Lucky 7 with my order. Again, I didn't get anything from NA and HS, so I felt that indeed, mones might just be placebos. Interestingly, it was the samples that convinced me that my lack of results were not the indicators of the mones. It was the samples that initially worked for me. I was so convinced that I bought Wolf and received some more AV. From then on, I have bought some more stuff from Garry, Steve and Thundr. Some worked, some didn't. If it was placebo, all of them would equally not work. However, I noticed that among those that worked, the effects of some are different from others.

My journal is full of anecdotal "evidence." It may not have been peer-reviewed, but they have been replicated by me. Hence, I'm convinced that some of them work for me based on my body chemistry. I would surmise that those that didn't work simply were not compatible with my body chem.

My conclusion is that these are not placebos.

(10-23-2014 6:56 AM)theLaw Wrote:  I'm thinking that if may be more effective to create a set of limited variables while testing to test a particular product effectively. An example of this would be to look at something like sales figures (if you are in sales) while using different mones in a on-on-one (or group-must be in person) situation, or cold approach pickup for phone numbers. Although it's still not proof, it's a decent place to start. Nearly all of the "testing" reports are a few hits among a large number of variables (location, age, range, etc).

(10-23-2014 4:51 PM)mark-in-dallas Wrote:  Okay, does any of this placebo vs reality matter to any of us who believe they are working for us? Let the doubters doubt and continue trying to convince themselves one way or another. As for me, I'll continue buying and using products that I've achieved positive effects from, regardless of the reason for the effects. There's many things in life that can't be proven and that we'll never really understand, but that makes them no less real.

(10-23-2014 4:51 PM)mark-in-dallas Wrote:  Okay, does any of this placebo vs reality matter to any of us who believe they are working for us? Let the doubters doubt and continue trying to convince themselves one way or another. As for me, I'll continue buying and using products that I've achieved positive effects from, regardless of the reason for the effects. There's many things in life that can't be proven and that we'll never really understand, but that makes them no less real.

(10-23-2014 5:28 PM)MMM Wrote:  “For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible.” --- Stuart Chase