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Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - Cornfed - 07-12-2015 10:08 AM

Just got this in my email moments ago:

Quote:Dear Valued Customers,

A few months back we came across a well published study of a compound called Hedione (Methyl Dihydrojasmonate). This study showed Hedione to have pheromone like properties, and in fact had been used by cologne designer Dior because of the pheromone like effects. So logically we were extremely excited about this substance, it seemed that it would naturally complement our products, and so we decided to try experimenting with it.

Our initial impression was quite positive, and the effects seemed to be positive in the limited number of customers who had tried the Hedione-infused versions, and so we went ahead and added it to all our products after positive field testing. We had high hopes!

Alpha Dream products containing Hedione have been in circulation for that past 3 months and unfortunately many of our customers believed the change was too much, and believe that the Hedione negatively affected the products. This is not to say that all customers disagreed with the change, however many have. So due to popular demand, we are going back to the original!

We have pulled from inventory all of the men’s products containing Hedione as of Friday (07-10-15) and we have discarded all remaining formula for men containing Hedione. This weekend we are manufacturing fresh batches of Alfa Maschio, LIIK version 1 and 2, Certo, and L’uomo Amore. All of the men’s products will be Hedione free guaranteed by 7/13/2015, the rest of our products for women and our unisex formulas that we currently have in inventory will sell out, since we have not received negative feedback with these products containing Hedione. After the limited supply remaining of Women’s products, Glace, and Corporativo have sold out, the next batches made will be Hedione-free.

If you purchased our products within the last 3 months, and don’t like the Hedione and want an exchange, just contact us at sales@alpha-dream.com and we will make up a return shipping label for you. As soon as we receive the product from you we will immediately send out a replacement which is guaranteed Hedione-free. The 90-day standard trial period is being extended for Hedione-free product exchanges.

Sometimes there exists products which simply cannot be made better, despite our desire to do so. We cannot promise that we will stop looking to improve our product line, however in the future we promise not to change the formulas by default: rather any improvements or changes made will be offered as a separate option, with guaranteed availability of the original.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused if you did not like the change; we intend to make this right by offering free exchanges regardless of the standard 90-day trial period.

Sincerely,

Christopher Schraud, C.E.O.
Alpha Dream Technology

I have no experience with the pre-Hedione formulas, but I picked up my Glace with the Hedione and love it. I'll be interested to see how it works without it. I would love to hear others sound off on their experiences with this change.


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - dsouza - 07-12-2015 10:14 AM

(07-12-2015 10:08 AM)Cornfed Wrote:  Just got this in my email moments ago:

I have no experience with the pre-Hedione formulas, but I picked up my Glace with the Hedione and love it. I'll be interested to see how it works without it. I would love to hear others sound off on their experiences with this change.

Glad to see Chris offering top notch cust serv again.

Glace with H may be ok in your opinion but many use glace to add to AM.. In that case the combo may be crap.

dsouza


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - excalibur - 07-13-2015 5:01 AM

(07-12-2015 10:08 AM)Cornfed Wrote:  Just got this in my email moments ago:

I have no experience with the pre-Hedione formulas, but I picked up my Glace with the Hedione and love it. I'll be interested to see how it works without it. I would love to hear others sound off on their experiences with this change.

I wish Chris had initially allowed an option With H or without H.
For guys in the US returning is no problem.
I am in Australia return would cost me at least AUD 20 and
Chris would probably charge another US$10 for shipping the replacementCry


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - Gitmo - 07-13-2015 6:35 AM

This is good to hear. Sadly my bottle of LIIK shipped 2 days before they pulled it. I wish I had known this was coming down the pipe. Email sent.


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - Eduardo - 07-13-2015 7:14 AM

And what now, I have to pay at least another 20$ for shipping. Thats fucked up man...if it was their fold they should pay at least 50% for shipping


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - SuperJoy - 07-13-2015 8:03 AM

Hmmm, Just ordered a bottle of Glace... not sure if I should contact them. I was going to try to run a glace+New Pheromone Additive+Androstadienone mix like AS3.

Should I contact them and tell them I can wait for non H bottle or give it a try and return it if it not to my liking? Not that familiar with H


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - Gitmo - 07-13-2015 2:36 PM

(07-13-2015 7:14 AM)Eduardo Wrote:  And what now, I have to pay at least another 20$ for shipping. Thats fucked up man...if it was their fold they should pay at least 50% for shipping

One should hope they at least pay shipping back to you (since they won't be taking your cc # again), and hopefully they send you a postmarked shipping label so you don't pay to ship to them. Don't know for sure though, haven't gotten a response to my email yet.


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - 50 Scent - 07-13-2015 3:08 PM

It states in the Email that they will print up a return shipping label. Im guessing this will take care of shipping back to them. But shipping back to us, I'm not sure of.


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - andromun - 07-13-2015 3:28 PM

I give Chris thumbs up for listening and doing away with H Clapping


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - Pheroman - 07-13-2015 6:42 PM

I don't know why he would'nt just create a new product based on hedione and try it first :/


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - V-nice - 07-13-2015 6:55 PM

Absolutely agreed! Just makes me wonder...too many eggs in one basket!


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - Blacky Chan - 07-13-2015 7:04 PM

When I saw Hedione being added to AM and L2K I did a little research. Everybody jumped the gun thinking it was the next Gilroy. I thought it would be easier to order some Hedione seperately and add to regular mixes.


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - Gitmo - 07-13-2015 11:01 PM

That's what I said in the email I sent them. I'd heard such great things about LIIK, I want to try the formulation that everyone rants and raves about. Not this experimental version that people have serious doubts about. Glad to hear they're returning to their oft lauded recipes.


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - Khan Solo - 07-14-2015 1:15 AM

If it ain't broke, don't fix it


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - Gitmo - 07-14-2015 10:51 AM

(07-13-2015 3:08 PM)50 Scent Wrote:  It states in the Email that they will print up a return shipping label. Im guessing this will take care of shipping back to them. But shipping back to us, I'm not sure of.

I just got my shipping label emailed to me. They paid shipping to ship the product back to them (1 day priority, too!), and since they won't have my CC # to ship it to me, they'll pay shipping for that too. So don't worry about it people, if you want the exchange you won't pay a cent.


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - 50 Scent - 07-14-2015 11:11 AM

(07-14-2015 10:51 AM)Gitmo Wrote:  I just got my shipping label emailed to me. They paid shipping to ship the product back to them (1 day priority, too!), and since they won't have my CC # to ship it to me, they'll pay shipping for that too. So don't worry about it people, if you want the exchange you won't pay a cent.

Would this be for anywhere? I'm in Canada


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - Gitmo - 07-14-2015 11:56 AM

I don't really have any way of knowing that, but I imagine so. Makes sense as far as customer service goes that they would pay to make it right.


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - 50 Scent - 07-14-2015 4:40 PM

(07-14-2015 11:56 AM)Gitmo Wrote:  I don't really have any way of knowing that, but I imagine so. Makes sense as far as customer service goes that they would pay to make it right.

Hey Gitmo.
I just got my return label today. It says on the label to mail it off on the date that the label was created, which is today. I see todays date on there, but I can't get it out today. Do you know if something like this can be mailed off on another date? I have never returned any kind of product before in the mail, so I might need a little guidance.
Cheers


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - Gitmo - 07-14-2015 6:55 PM

No idea buddy, wish I could help you. Best I could say is go to the post office tomorrow morning and ask. I'd hope they would accept that you didn't really have any control over the mail-by date.


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - cabooster - 07-16-2015 10:08 AM

Was it just LIIK that had Hedione for men's formulas? I also purchased Glace and Corpo last month and was wondering if they may have hedione.


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - Gitmo - 07-16-2015 12:28 PM

(07-16-2015 10:08 AM)cabooster Wrote:  Was it just LIIK that had Hedione for men's formulas? I also purchased Glace and Corpo last month and was wondering if they may have hedione.

AM did too, I know that much. Email sales@alpha-dream.com and ask. The original notice that Cornfed posted in the OP lists "Alfa Maschio, LIIK version 1 and 2, Certo, and L’uomo Amore" so you might be fine with the Glace and Corpo, but it doesn't hurt to ask.


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - Cornfed - 07-17-2015 5:44 AM

I was under the impression that pretty well everything got it. You'll notice this in the e-mail:

Quote:After the limited supply remaining of Women’s products, Glace, and Corporativo have sold out, the next batches made will be Hedione-free.



RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - jb20 - 07-17-2015 6:11 PM

(07-14-2015 11:11 AM)50 Scent Wrote:  Would this be for anywhere? I'm in Canada

I think UPSP thing is only valid for US customers.I sent mine back( from Calgary,AB,Canada) today and the post office said it is invalid for Canada.Cost me CAD 17.24.


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - excalibur - 07-17-2015 8:14 PM

(07-17-2015 6:11 PM)jb20 Wrote:  I think UPSP thing is only valid for US customers.I sent mine back( from Calgary,AB,Canada) today and the post office said it is invalid for Canada.Cost me CAD 17.24.

Hi JB
Did you have trouble shipping as its liquids, what did you declare it as


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - jb20 - 07-17-2015 8:57 PM

(07-17-2015 8:14 PM)excalibur Wrote:  Hi JB
Did you have trouble shipping as its liquids, what did you declare it as

Glass bottles.


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - Fishdude - 07-17-2015 10:37 PM

I normally put "gift" and that's fine. A few times I have been asked to specify and put in "Candle" and everyone has received my 20 shipments to date.

Canada Post

But to put back on track....... Chris should have done some serious testing with the addition of H.
Cost a pretty penny to learn this. Chris has fantastic mixes that all work for me and many others.
I'm not affected by Androstadienone so I can use the spicey ones.

H across the board is a bold move that takes some conviction in the add to do.

I still would like the option of an H add to test, or, Chris, next time we order a product, send a sampler of the same to everyone with some H in it.

Anyways, I'm a "mone bottle is half full" person and am happy to see seasoned vendors continue to improve (science experiment required) their products.


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - cabooster - 07-18-2015 2:34 PM

They said I need to write the invoice number on the outside of my package. Would this be the order number from the confirmation email I got when I ordered my products?


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - 50 Scent - 07-18-2015 5:26 PM

(07-18-2015 2:34 PM)cabooster Wrote:  They said I need to write the invoice number on the outside of my package. Would this be the order number from the confirmation email I got when I ordered my products?

Yes it's the order#
It's also on the page they sent you with the order.


RE: Alpha Dreams is ditching the Hedione - ScentHound - 06-03-2017 6:32 AM

Not trying to stirr up anything, but I can't seem to find any actual negative feedback on the Hedione-containing products from AD here?
Has anybody had a bottle of pheromones from AD which didn't work because of the Hedione?
I'm slightly stumped by this whole debacle since I myself added some pure hedione to my bottle of Nude a good while before AD thought of it and the stuff works great even now and it smells amazing..
(I also added hedione to a bottle of Alter Ego with no negative impact.)