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Molecule A Blind Testing Reports and Final Summary - bonadzz - 01-21-2016 2:19 PM

Ok guys here is the final summary report on molecule PT-A.

I am so happy with how the testing went with PT-A. I’m more excited than a Japanese school girl in a Hello Kitty store with this one because not only did all testers unanimously report the same main effect, everyone reported on the same secondary effect, and not only that, most testers found the same “sweet spot” for dosage. This one truly is a winner. So here’s the summary:

Molecule Name: 3,3'-dihydroxy-ß-carotene-4,4'-dione

The long awaited molecule name is 3,3'-dihydroxy-ß-carotene-4,4'-dione, also goes by the name of Astaxanthin.

Here is the visual of the molecular structure:
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Overall effects:
The main effect which was unanimously found between testers is that PT-A created a very inviting and attention grabbing bonding effect. The secondary effect was a sense of alertness/focus/energy. This is spectacular to come across a molecule like this.

Effects on others: Testers have found that PT-A very easily grabbed the attention of others and had them completely engaged with the testers. There were many instances that when the testers wore the molecule around strangers, the strangers were driven towards them and very interested and excited to do so. Testers reported this molecule had attractant effects similar to Andrsotenone but without the fear and plenty of comfort like Androstadienone but without the crash and depression.

When I describe the effects of molecules to people I usually use a famous person as an analogy of the type of vibes and traits you would see like how I relate Alpha Treasures to Donald Trump or Captain to Richard Branson, but with PT-A I couldn’t think of someone, but more of a “something” which describes its effects. With PT-A it’s like you’re Disney World and the person you interacted with just stepped through the gates at the entrance for the first time. They know you’re fun, friendly, and exciting and there is so much about you that they’re going to enjoy and they want to spend as much time as they can exploring you even though they’ve never met you before.

Self effects: There was a very clear consensus between testers that this molecule gave them a drive of energy and focus. One tester even related it to Ritalin.

Dosage: 0.1mg/ml or 5mcg/drop.

I wasn’t sure where to throw this in in the report, but I think here is a good spot. Most testers found that 3+ drops (15mcg) was a sweet spot. Below 15mcg of dosage almost all testers reported a sense of “pinball energy” where the energy/focus effect of the molecule was uncontrollable. There were no negative effects reported from anything over 15mcg so this is a very good thing to know where the minimum base would be when I create my next product.

Final thoughts:
This molecule is really something else and I am very excited to have discovered it’s pheromone like properties. The inviting factor combined with the focus/drive can turn into a very motivational drive to go out into the world and interact with people on a deeper level than just small talk which can be especially useful for us introverts out there. I’ve been dabbling with this molecule on my own for the past year and the testers all have confirmed my own findings and this molecule is going to be the base in my next product that I will release very soon. With the right molecules in the mixture with PT-A being the base, you will truly see some swooning going on.

I wanted to say thank you to all the testers for testing this molecule. It truly is an amazing discovery. Since I have revealed the name of the molecule in here, I ask that you guys not share the molecule name with the public yet. I also wanted to let you guys know that the new product I made using PT-A as the base will be coming out shortly after the blind testing, but I will be giving each of you a free bottle of the new product in addition to your product of choice for participating in the testing. So you will be getting that product before it gets release to the public as a thank you for testing Smile

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-John

PT-A - Snoopyace - 01-21-2016 2:19 PM

ONE DROP- No Cover

Tested two days in a row and received the same results. Tomorrow I will try one drop around my bride and others to determine any effects to others. So far I am liking this. It reminds me of something I've used before but I can't currently place it. I'm looking forward to increasing the doseage.

Self effects test- First 15 minutes- Immediately after application to the tops of my hands I felt a sense of pressure in my sinus cavities and a brief feeling of my VNO being overwhelmed. This was followed by a slight feeling of needing to grind my teeth. This stopped within about ten seconds. After about 5 minutes I was feeling calm, confident and more upbeat than before application. When I say calm, I do feel more grounded, more focused than prior. I feel the need to stand with my shoulders straight and back. My posture is improved. I definitely feel more focused but only slightly so. I found that within about 3-5 minutes my thoughts were turning to sex. This isn't uncommon for me but it does seem relevant because it does feel more focused than normal. Self effects lasted for perhaps an hour. Trailing off after about the first 30 minutes or so. I was definitely felt happier and more upbeat. More outgoing.

PT-A NP17 - NP17 - 01-23-2016 5:28 PM

1/23/16: 1 drop PT-A

Interesting smell to it but hard to describe. It's like a green smell with a hint of floral, but there's something off about it, like plastic but not quite. Definitely altered significantly. The effect is IMMEDIATE. I feel very focused. Almost too focused. It's not just a mental focus but also the way I'm looking at things. I don't know if it's enhancing or blocking my peripheral vision, but it is affecting my field of vision and how I focus on my senses somehow. I'm very aware of my senses. I'm alone right now, but I'm imagining social situations. And I feel like acting in an animated way, in terms of how I gesture or express myself. It's like a calm focus, almost like a deep meditative state. My head hurts. It feels like the state that I go into after doing zen meditation for a prolonged meditation. I would call this "Instant Satori".

1 drop was clearly a high dose already, maybe drastic, but I decided to add more. T+~15:00 9-10 more drops of PT-A. Now I feel good. It's like a smooth, cool euphoria, not the hot excitement from an Androsterone overdose. The music I'm listening to is coming alive, like taking piracetam. I'm more tuned in to the details of the composition and texture, the tone and timbre of the voices and synthesizers (I'm a composer and electronic musician). The subjective feeling is not changed very much. In other words, I feel kind of the same. I still feel animated: I feel like gesturing, and focused in a very zen-like way.

I'm really tired from work and won't be taking this out tonight. I was gonna test self-effects on all of them, but I'm going to go to sleep early.

RE: PT-A NP17 - NP17 - 01-24-2016 5:54 AM

I woke up this morning with the song I was listening to last night stuck in my head really bad. It seems the focus has a very strong imprinting effect.

RE: PT-A - Snoopyace - 01-26-2016 8:30 PM

My 2 cents on PT-A. Hopefully this fits with other research on this particular pheromone.

I have tested PT-A at doses up to 5 drops at a time so far, both without and with a cover scent. I have not seen a dramatic change in behaviors from 1 drop up to 5 drops. What I've noticed has been an incremental change. Self effects become more pronounced as I increase the dosage. I find that when I'm wearing anything over one drop that I am a bit more focused yet relaxed. I feel a bit more disinhibited. A feeling that increases as I increase the number of drops. I don't feel as though I'm out of control, just a general sense of being more open or outgoing and not thinking so much about choosing my words and my motions feel less tense and more relaxed. I'm more likely to KINO someone, especially of the opposite sex.

I have noticed that the effects of this without a cover scent do not last nearly as long nor do they seem to reach more than about 3 feet. While even wearing this at one drop I find that people are very deferential. Not fear or intimidation but more that they are being respectful. As I increase the dosage, I notice that people are less likely to make eye contact with me. Especially older people. I'm inclined to interpret that as possibly being intimidation. It is odd how the higher the dose the more likely random people are to step aside and be deferential. I receive a lot of apologies from people because they believe they are in my way.

Using a cover scent, in my case I've consistently been using Love Potion: Homme, I find that the throw is much greater and that I am getting the same effects with a lower dosage. 3 drops with a cover scent works in a similar fashion as 5 drops without. I see effects from people at least 5' away at times. I also notice that younger people, especially women 18-25 that I've interacted with, get motormouth syndrome. I've had at least 3 younger women just start babbling at me as if they were awestruck but didn't know how to process it.

Today I wore 5 drops to a job interview and covered it with Love Potion: Homme. The guy doing the interview started out pretty detached and appeared to be uninterested in his own process. Within 2 minutes of exposure he started asking me personal questions while also telling me stories of his own life. I might just get the job thanks to the status effect from the pheromones I was wearing.

This is an interesting pheromone. It feels a bit off balance by itself. I don't necessarily get anything really sexual from this so much as a feeling of being in charge of myself, my thoughts, my feelings and my emotions. Very relaxed and grounded yet still in a good mood. No androstenone 'Hulk SMASH' type tendencies at the doses I've been wearing. Paired with something social this could be awesome for a VIP type of mix.

PT-A - DarkLord1 - 01-26-2016 8:55 PM

Just got the package today. We had bad weather...So this is my first time leaving my house in 6 days and the first time that I have worn a pheromone in 6 days.

So here goes:

I put two drops on. One on my wrist and the other on my throat. I did not wear a cover scent.

Self Effects: a little light headed driving around in my car with it on.

Wore it out to eat: Two cops struck up a conversation with me. Both had dilated pupils. It's chipolte....And I don't normally go around having talks with police, but they initiated and seemed very interested in what I had to say.

Wore it at a bar: Grabbed a drink and all three ladies at the bar engaged me in conversation. Ages two in the mid 40's and 1 who is 69 (she told me). The older lady was with her husband. They all initiated conversation with me and ALL had dilated pupils. That drink lasted about 2 hours and the people seemed like they didn't want to leave. One of the 40 year olds flirted with me and even said that she is not normally attracted to black guys. I said that neither am I, but what the hell, right...The women were ok looking. The two single ladies gave me a hug when they left and asked to meet with me again. The older lady also asked to meet with me again and to bring my family.

Wore it grocery shopping: Interacted with two 20ish store employees that have been exposed to mones before and they were both very talkative. Not over the top , A-nol, like talking, but they usually excuse themselves to go back to work...In both cases, I had to say, I have to go...Spoke with a couple of guys in the store and they also seemed very chatty.

First Try Impression: It seems like a smooth social (maybe social sexual) like vibe that has a really positive pulling power to it. People want to engage me in conversation and it feels really smooth.

PT-A - renny - 01-27-2016 3:56 PM

PT-A 1 drop applied to one wrist then split with the other wrist.

Just me and the kids todays so this is mostly just because I got it today and wanted to smell it. I don't like reporting self effects cuz I don't find they last beyond an application or two but I'll go for it here.

nervous energy, a bit of a pinball bouncing from one thing to another and somewhat indecisive. In the past I have often been able to suss out my feelings for a molecule quickly and if that turns out to be the case here, I like it. It needs a groove and a purpose, but I like it. Maybe I'm old and this feels boyish?

Another drop before I take my little girl to her church group tonite, I'll try to interact a bit there but it's usually a pretty quick trip. My Love will be home later so it will have a chance to dry down before I see her.

RE: PT-A - renny - 01-28-2016 1:00 PM

PT-A 2 drops applied in th morning wrists like yesterday (unless otherwise noted one can assume that all apps from a dropper like this is applied by dropping on the left wrist , replacing dropper bulb to bottle then rubbing wrist to wrist. If the is any excess after rubbing wrist to wrist then both wrists are brought to the sides of the neck just below the ears and the excess applied there. 2 drops will split between the wrists, but any more is going to have to go to the neck as well.)

I've worn this by the bucket-full, just so you know. (epiandrosterone) Maybe, I think. See that's what I hate about self effects. Onto other people then!

My Love...OK I'll come back to her.

Left the house with my very cute pherocloud stealing two year old in tow to run some errands and do some shopping. At one point I found myself surrounded by a small group of highschool students who paid no attention to the fact that I was in their space even though they were aware of it cuz they were smiling at my little girl and holding doors for us. They just kept chatting and going about their business as if I wasn't there....I don't know, kids don't usually act like this around me unless...yep, bucket full. I think.

Middle aged to older store clerk (proprietor of said store) leans over the counter greets me like an old friend, then starts going on and on about my little pherocloud thief and how cute she is.

Well at least My Love knows who my pherocloud belongs to. She acted much like she does when I'm wearing Instant Gentleman. Calm and flirtatious and girly, no Androstenone desparation, no pushing, no worries...and she loves me, she told me that a few more times than normal. We were both too tired and had to get up too early to play,although there is certainly some sensualness to this. Touching and cuddling was enchanced I feel. This morning I was applying the two drops when she came out of the shower, so I know the air was full of this molecule. I could see her pace slow and how she just wanted to linger in the moment. I didn't say anything and just went on with my morning routine which includes putting some EOs on my feet and legs for the aches and pains of the mid fifties...also handy for covering up new pheromone smells. She just seemed to love hanging around even though it's busy in the mornings getting the kids off to school and getting ready for her work.

Speaking of the kids, I get no alpha compliance from them with this, but the disobediance is happy disobediance. Not seeing the screaming meemees too much.

OK so we had dinner plans tonight with another couple but they've been canceled so that test is out...err postponed...just stay tuned and be patient...I won't be banging out three molecules in three days but I'll figure out ways to give them each their due...I'm treating this as a marathon.

RE: PT-A - renny - 01-30-2016 6:47 AM

OK, It Works.Naughty Molecule. "I've been fantasizing about you all day" Full report later.

RE: PT-A - renny - 01-30-2016 8:25 AM

So lets back up to thursday evening. All day Thursday while wearing the two drops out and about I just kept getting the feeling that it was all energy with no direction...I couldn't "feel" which way to push things while wearing it. It's a single molecule and I've found that sometimes you just need to add something else to push it. So my honey was going to be late, I put the kids to bed and then reapplied two drops to the wrists and added a spray of 2x neroli AMMO (purportedly -Androstenone 5mcg, -Androsterone, and A-Nol). My Love came home shortly thereafter and had supper and started on some computer billing while we watched some TV. It was almost midnite when she was done and we crawled into bed and went to sleep. I felt less in my head with the addition of the AMMO but didn't really see anything from my Love.

Friday morning showered and decided to wait until evening to apply any mones...let the air clear a bit. Spent a leisurely morning with my Love and youngest daughter then they went to a preschool group before my Love dropped the baby back home on her way into a meeting and a little light clinic. I applied 4 drops of PT-A to wrists and sides of neck just before she was due home...an hour before supper. Supper bathed the kids and put them to bed...then it gets interesting...

RE: PT-A NP17 - NP17 - 01-30-2016 11:29 AM

1/30/16: 1 drop PT-A

Before I left, I had a surge of motivation to ... clean stuff. LOL Very Ritalin-like effect in that I wanted to accomplish small tasks and get everything in order. My mind was organizing and planning things out. This does not surprise me at all given that I've noticed such intense focus with PT-A that it would also have a motivation kind of effect, because focus drugs also produce a similar effect.

I noticed that it made me more intent with the way I was walking. I was moving faster and was definitely giving an impression of being resolved or determined to do something. I noticed one salesman, and usually these people are very pushy to get you to buy something, moved out of my was and looked in the other direction as I walked by. I was too far to hit him with my pheromones, and that's when I started to think about how the way I was walking might be influencing people.

Went cologne shopping today. I went to various stores in the mall and sampled various colognes. It was early on a Saturday so most of the salespeople were bored and looking for someone to talk to/work with. I went to 3 different stores and sampled a variety in each one, and the same thing happened each time: the salesperson was extremely attentive on me, had their eyes on me the whole time, and literally followed me around non-stop. Now this may just be because it's their job and they were bored, but there was no sense of, "I better give this guy some space." They were spraying things and insisting I try them and listening attentively to my thoughts and opinions on colognes. Maybe it's just because I have some niche knowledge of colognes. I notice that a lot of cologne salespeople, at least in my area, are pretty clueless about stuff like longevity, sillage, carriers. Anyway, long story short, definite sense of attention directed at me but may be confounded by other factors. The sense of interacting with people one-on-one while wearing PT-A is "the focus is on me!" On the other hand, it didn't seem to have an attention-getting effect like I would get with a huge dose of Androsterone or Androstenone. The focus was limited to people that I was interacting with or whom I asked questions.

RE: PT-A - renny - 01-31-2016 5:40 AM

PT-A Fri evening 4drops applied wrists sides of neck. App points scrubbed, late afternoon, kids in bed.

I come back downstairs as we usually clean up from supper together and then hang out w/tv or whatever. 30 minutes later my Love is still not down and I think "well she fell asleep rocking the baby". Then I hear the shower running...OK, shes had a long week she's going to bed early. I finish the kitchen, check the computer, hear her walking around upstairs and go up to see what her plans are and kiss her goodnight if she's going to bed... Full on seduction scene in the bedroom. Candles, short nighty..."Did you come up to check on me?"
"Uhhhh, yeah. This looks interesting."
"I've, been fantasizing about you"
"OH!, should I shower?"
"NO! Just come to bed I can't wait any longer...I was just going to call you to come up."

Crazy Dirty Noisy FUN.

RE: PT-A - renny - 01-31-2016 6:13 AM

PT-A Sat morning 4 drops on clean app points. At 4 drops I don't experience as much of the "pinball, dirsectionless energy" that I experienced at lower doses. I'll go back down to check and see if it's dosage or if I'm just getting used to this and loosing some of the self effects.

So Sat. morning and we are off to do some grocery shopping and take the kids to the playground. I really feel out in public as if I am wearing IG with something missing or altered. I get some of the -Androsterone attention/status/respect but not anything overt or over the top. It's different being out with kids though because they get so much of the attention anyway...I really think they "steal the cloud" with this stuff. "Youthful?" "Childlike?". One thing I am on the lookout for is whether more or less people make the assumption that I am the kids grandfather. I'm in my fifties and my little brother's grand kids are the same age as my kids so it's reasonable and doesn't bother me when it happens but I think it will be a good test of age perception with the test molecules...so far I have not been told how cute my grand kids are when wearing this.

4 drops seem to morph on my skin after about 7-8 hours giving me more aggression in my vibe so I witch hazeled the app points in late afternoon so I could reapply later as some friends are coming over for euchre. It's always a fun time but this was over the top. I'm going to say this has some disinhibiting factors for certain as a bit of a fart contest broke out between them...they certainly felt at home and there was no alcohol involved but it seemed as if there could have been.

Anyway fun molecule I'll run it agin for church today and maybe come back to a lower dose range to test again mon/tuesday but I think I'm ready to move onto PT-B unless John or Mark would like to see me try something else with this one. I have a pretty good selection of AD products and a few Alpha Dreams if you want to see this added to a mix or anything.

RE: PT-A - bonadzz - 01-31-2016 12:54 PM

Hey Renny,

Thanks for the reporting on molecule PT-A!

If you think you've got a good feel for what PT-A is all about and are ready to move onto PT-B, can you write a summary of your over all conclusions on PT-A?

As for mixing, I'd like to see just what the raw molecules do for right now. I know they will work better in mixes, all molecules do, no molecule really works well on its own (possibly with the exception of Androstadienone ). Figuring out the inherent tones and vibes of each molecule will help determine their place in new mixes.

If you'd like to mix once you've got a conclusion on PT-A, then go right ahead, It's always worth noting what you feel it does to mixes. Smile

Thanks!

RE: PT-A - renny - 02-01-2016 9:19 AM

PRELIMINARY SUMMARY PT-A

So five days is not long enough to really dig into effects from any pheromone, we constantly caution newbies to take lots of time and wear things under lots of circumstances before drawing conclusions. I need to take that advice. So consider this round 1 of my PT-A testing I want to do at least another week before making a complete analysis.

For now:
1-2 drops feels energetic but without direction...like a pinball. Procrastination is easy.
It seems to make others want to linger in the moment. People seems to lose a sense of urgency They will slow down or stop what they are doing to chat with you, even if busy or if there are time constraints.
4 drops create far fewer problems for me self effect wise, better than adding AMMO did, or I'm getting used to the self effect or something else is going on. That's why we don't just stop testing after a few tries and jump to conclusions and this is mainly why I'm not done with this molecule. Effect on others does not seem as dependent on dose as the self effects do for me.

It reminds me very much of Instant Gentleman which is my fave mix from my AD days...I used it more than I used A314. That is to say, I get the mild status and (for me) youthful energy vibe of IG but it doesn't seem to have the gravity or weight and, I've seen several things that just gave me a WTF moment:
Our Euchre friends getting into a fart contest.
Passerby in stores being clumsy when in close proximity, lots of bumping into me even when the store is not at all crowded
Younger people showing no avoidance of my space almost as if I belong in their group or conversations.

Sex with this molecule involved is incredible...moreso than -Androstenone heavy products.

My plan now is to go phero free today and tomorrow and resume testing on wednesday either to continue with PT-A or move onto something else for a week and then come back.

First whiff - Paradox - 02-02-2016 10:31 AM

Usually from the first smell I get some sort of impression. I get nothing from the first whiff of molecule A.

Maybe I am the control, the placebo dose?

Needs serious testing though. I have not given molecule A a live run yet.

RE: PT-A - DarkLord1 - 02-02-2016 10:37 AM

Ok...Back with PT-A....I really like this one.

Had a mid 20's woman stare at me...yep, stare at me while eating with her boyfriend. She was sucking on a straw (drinking her soda) and she would NOT look away. I was talking to my friends, but they noticed it too. Her boyfriend tapped her on the arm and shoulder to get her attention. No, I didn't know her...never saw her before today. No hair flips or excessive touching...it just feels like warm attraction.

What I really like with this molecule is the friendliness and warmth that I get from people. My friends were more engaged and said what a great guy I was...They normally just talk and we give each other shit....It wasn't over the top, but simply a warm..."I really like this guy" type vibe.

I also was around several children and they were really warm and kind of kept hovering around me...Same thing happens when I wear A-nol blends, but with this on, they are not hyper/jumping off the walls.

Again, no big self effects, but I do feel good....Best part is that I get nothing but positive interactions from everyone...This shit is smooooth....Like when you drank shit alcohol in college and then you bought some quality stuff and was like damn, that other shit was gasoline.

I'll keep testing, but this one is my favorite...For some reason, white women seem to respond especially well to this one...I'm black and some might say a bit intimidating...so when white women initiate conversations with me and seem so comfortable around me on a first meeting....That gets my attention. Again, there is attraction and a warm feeling to this one. Can't wait to see what the others find out or find out that they were all the same chemical or something crazy like that...

RE: PT-A - DarkLord1 - 02-02-2016 3:25 PM

This time a mid 20's blonde...very attractive...with her man...taking peeks at me. She was more discrete than the last 20ish lady...Dilated pupils...I engage her man based on something on tv...we were in a waiting room that had a 2.5 hour delay....she opened up when he started talking to me.

To back up a bit, a Filipino lady (30ish...hard to guess with her) knocked 30 minutes off my wait time when I arrived to handle some business. She was nice and again, warm....can't say she was attracted per se, but very warm and caring...she had dilated pupils and this side long look...Nude alphish, but hard to say if it was attraction.

So I sit down and a guy....dilated pupils starts complaining to me about the wait...and the heat is up to high in the building too....we talk for a minute or two and then I read a book...normal wait is about 40 minutes to an hour, but computers are slow today.

This guy, when his name is called...comes to me and give me a ticket from his buddy (who had to leave because the wait was so long)...knocks another hour and 10 minutes off my wait....the buddy came back, but by then, I was done and out the door.

First test Molecule A - Paradox - 02-05-2016 7:41 AM

I put on 2 drops this morning. It is now 2 hours after the initial application and so far nothing. Not much exposure to people today but so far nothing out of the ordinary.

RE: PT-A NP17 - NP17 - 02-07-2016 11:36 AM

2/6/16: 2 drops PT-A

So I went to visit my family and pick up a movie. Everyone wants to touch me. My little bro, 6 yo, wants to hold my hand. My mom is touching my arm and shoulder. This definitely amplifies sensory impressions and calls them to mind. It makes people notice things. My mom complimented my jacket and touched the fabric. Everything is more noticeable: smells in the air, taste of the food, jewelry, eye color. It would be a good idea to combine this with an excellent cover scent.

As I'm driving, I noticed things that were different on roads I've driven down a million times. It made everything seem new again, like the first time I've seen it. (Beginner's mind? lol) This suggests it might have some kind of reset effect, but that's an effect I've never quite been able to figure out.

This is kind of dubious, Wizard

I know, but it also seems like people know what I'm thinking before I say it. My mom asked me what movie I was going to borrow, and I said "Spaceballs." She said she knew I was going to pick either that one or Airplane. I didn't think anything of that at all, because she's my mom and knows I like that movie. But when I got to my friend's house and started watching, we started thinking the same things about the movie. And we were noticing things we've never noticed before and commenting on it. Like how the first officer is named "Colonel Sanders" and we both realized without saying anything out loud that it's a knock-off of the KFC guy, even though we've both seen the movie 100 times and never thought of it. We both thought at the same time that we could see all the jokes coming because we've both seen it so many times that the impression of the humor was so different. Also, she commented on one of the actor's faces that he made as the camera came in for a close-up, and I was thinking the exact same thing.

A grounded explanation would be that PT-A makes minor details jump out and appear more noticeable. We would remark on things that seem new or different because of the pheromones, and it would seem like we knew each other's thoughts when really we were just in the same state of mind because of the pheromones. Another explanation is that there was some kind of rapport based on body language or subtle cues, or just knowing each other so well, that we put ourselves in each other's shoes, so to speak.

However, these 2 explanations don't seem to explain the frequency or uncanniness of the connections that I shared. An explanation that I feel best accounts for this is that there is an amplification in subtle intuition, something that has been reported before by pheromone users. See Tisha's report here: http://www.pheromonetalk.com/tentative-conclusions-about-p85-64498.html

After a few hours, there's a burnout where my attention feels diffused. It's hard to focus on reading and reporting because my mind is restless.

RE: PT-A NP17 - NP17 - 02-07-2016 12:12 PM

Minor detail, but the T+~15:00 in the first report should be T+~00:15, meaning around 15 minutes after initial application.

Second test Molecule A - Paradox - 02-09-2016 7:37 AM

Today I am wearing 3 drops of Molecule A.

This Molecule is a weird one. It's only my second test but I feel like I should already have a grip on what this molecule is doing.

At 3 drops this molecule makes m feel irritable. I am usually not easy to upset. This Molecule has me "upset". I'm not angry. Just upset.

So here is the kicker. "Ice Queen" as I call her is a woman who can not be bothered with me. She is the perfect test subject as she is super sensitive to various molecules and reacts appropriately to Androstenone, arone and various mixes.

This morning when I approached her with Molecule A on she was like a purring cat. Shortly after, I went to talk to someone else about a computer issue. She slid up next to me to get into the conversation but she was so close that I could feel the heat from her body. Not usual for her. She doesn't even do this when I wear an Androstenone based product.

I applied Molecule A at 6:30am and it is now 8:30am. The upset feeling that I had earlier is dissipating.

RE: Second test Molecule A - Paradox - 02-09-2016 1:56 PM

I reapplied 3 drops of Molecule A at 1:30pm. I had to meet up with an IT expert. Went to the brief meeting. The IT expert was a female. She seemed to swoon.

Ive worked with her before but under the influence of Molecule A, she seemed drunk.

I have that feeling of being upset. I seem to not be upset about anything in particular. I seem to be aggravated /irritated for no reason.

This molecule does not fly well as it has no projection. For some reason this Molecules only works at a distance of 3-4 feet. I'm assuming that this molecule is heavy. Like Oxycontin heavy (1007.19 g/mol). I don't think that Molecule A is Oxy, I just think that it's heavy.

Anyhow, I noticed something else. The two subjects exposed to Molecule A sang a little song. One woman sang a short verse from Michael Jackson's song "You Are Not Alone" when I told her I would be there to help her if she needed help. The other subject just sang one line of a song that I didn't recognize.

The singing could be a coincidence or it could be the result of an elevated mood (http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/16/singing-changes-your-brain/)

RE: Second test Molecule A - Paradox - 02-10-2016 9:06 AM

After thinking about my test Molecule A at 3 drops I would liken it to this Cheetos commercial.

The effects of Molecule A on women are nice but the upset feeling that I get is not nice. Molecule A reminds me of A-1 in that it works great on women but has negative side effects that impact the wearer.

Third test Molecule A - Paradox - 02-10-2016 9:48 AM

Today I am wearing Molecule A at 4 drops. Molecule A seems to work even better at 4 drops. As an added bonus the upset feeling that I got at 3 drops of Molecule A is subdued. In fact, at the 30 minute mark of wearing Molecule A I am getting a feeling of mild euphoria.

I think that Molecule A makes women comfortable and relaxed. Ice queen was super chatty this morning.

Of course the next test will be at 5 drops.

I also wanted to note that my sample of Molecule A seems to be yellow/gold in color.

Molecule A's after effects - Paradox - 02-11-2016 8:31 AM

So, I previously observed that Molecule A works better on targets at 3+ drops.

At 2 drops I get a negative self effect of feeling upset for no reason.

(02-10-2016 9:48 AM)Paradox Wrote: Today I am wearing Molecule A at 4 drops. Molecule A seems to work even better at 4 drops. As an added bonus the upset feeling that I got at 3 drops of Molecule A is subdued. In fact, at the 30 minute mark of wearing Molecule A I am getting a feeling of mild euphoria.

4 drops seem to have caused some sort of calm euphoric state in me that has seeped over into today.

Looks like this molecule may trigger dopamine or some other neurochemical release.

I'm down to my last few drops of Molecule A so this is my last Molecule A report

RE: PT-A - DarkLord1 - 02-14-2016 9:40 AM

Took some time off to give my body a rest from mones and then wore this last night out to dinner.

So I put 6 drops on (it's like water) ans spread it around on my wrist and neck to cover maximum skin.

My wife had an earlier event so I got to the restaurant about an hour early to wait at the bar a bit.

When I arrive, they have 3 female hostesses and they all have dilated pupils (very strong ones) and they are happy to see me and we chat a bit about the traffic they expect for dinner. All early 20's...all flirty...but not touchy.

Next the female manager comes over...30's and she touches me and greets me. So she walks me over to the bar, sits down and talks to me for 45 minutes. She is flirty, touchy, and agrees that the first drink should be on the house. I explain that I have dietary restrictions and she offers to pick me up something from another place so that I can be happy. This is the strongest single hit that I have seen from any of these molecules so far...Even though other customers came in, she stayed right next to me chatting with those big deer in the headlights. In fact, the only reason that she stopped is that my wife snuck up behind me and she got the hint.

She quickly transitioned to say that she was talking about my dietary restrictions....very smooth...she didn't mention the part about her being lonely for V-day...asking me if I had any friends...and all of the touching....but I'm not mad at her.

Then we get seated...The place is crowded for obvious reasons....I catch multiple women stealing glances at me....all while eating with their significant others...two of the women engaged me in conversation...about my meal selection, etc...and dessert. My napkin fell and one of these ladies got up, crossed over her man, to pick it up and give it to me.

I thought my wife would be mad...she wasn't....she knows that I am chatty....The waitress was friendly and bumped into me with her ass 5 times...she touched me with her hand twice.

The males were all positive...even the ones with women engaging a total stranger in conversation...

PT-A has been consistent...I went up in drops and spread it around more this time...I really, really like this one. In fact, what I see with this one might be raising my expectations with the other molecules which are not as strong...in my mind.

Thinking about some of this in context, I failed to disclose that I have been taking Maca supplements too.

RE: PT-A - renny - 02-16-2016 6:56 PM

Final summary for PT-A

I've worn this on a few more occasions and the bottle is running low so I think I can wrap this one up.

I'll call this molecule "Playtime"

It's for recess, letting your guard down and jumping off the slide. It's youthful, fun, hard to direct. You kinda have to let go of the reigns a bit and just be prepared to enjoy the ride. I think you could easily use this for joining new groups, it's friendly that way. It reminds me very much of IG and I would be surprised if it is not epiandrosterone. General concensus leans towards epi-Androsterone being the second molecule in IG and this just feels too familiar to me to not be a major component of my fave androtics mix. I have never used epi-Androsterone by itself so I could be way off, but I look forward to finding out.

I think general assumption is that I seem younger than I am.

I haven't really had too much of the nervous energy effect since the first few apps.

The biggest surprise for me is how much fun this is in the bedroom, laughing, goofing off, and not holding anything back until collapsing in a sweaty exhausted heap. Playtime indeed.

RE: Blind Testing Molecule A Reports and Summary - NP17 - 02-26-2016 9:52 PM

Apparently the summary is waiting on my final report. Sorry, I thought the summary was going on without me because I missed my deadline. To take umbrage

And in fact, I did miss my opportunity. The friend I wanted to test it on cancelled, so I don't think I'm going to test what I wanted to. I was particularly interested in how myself and others seemed to know what each other were thinking. We thought the same thing at the same time. We were on the same wavelength. After testing different mones around the same people, especially my friend, I realize that she often says stuff like, "I know! I was thinking the same thing!" Now, my experience was much more uncanny than anything I experienced with her, and there was also the fact that my mom also seemed to know what I was thinking. So I still think there's something about PT-A that creates this impression of being on the same wavelength. But it's probably not so much intuition-enhancing as much as it is bringing out subtle details that have been overlooked, combined with the attentive focus that PT-A creates. This explanation is more realistic and seems to coincide more with self-effects.

So let's hear that summary. We're all eagerly anticipating this one. Sun bespectacled

Molecule A Blind Testing Summary - bonadzz - 02-28-2016 1:49 PM

Ok guys here is the final summary report on molecule PT-A.

I am so happy with how the testing went with PT-A. I’m more excited than a Japanese school girl in a Hello Kitty store with this one because not only did all testers unanimously report the same main effect, everyone reported on the same secondary effect, and not only that, most testers found the same “sweet spot” for dosage. This one truly is a winner. So here’s the summary:

Molecule Name: 3,3'-dihydroxy-ß-carotene-4,4'-dione

The long awaited molecule name is 3,3'-dihydroxy-ß-carotene-4,4'-dione, also goes by the name of Astaxanthin.

Here is the visual of the molecular structure:
[Image: RKIZdaN.jpg]

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-John

RE: Molecule A Blind Testing Reports and Final Summary - Snoopyace - 02-28-2016 2:46 PM

Thank you for allowing me to test this molecule. I've had great fun with it and it is good to see consistent results from all your testers. That is very generous of you to allow us a bottle of your new product. Thank you! I cannot wait to see what masterpiece you've created with this. Good

RE: Molecule A Blind Testing Reports and Final Summary - DarkLord1 - 02-28-2016 9:58 PM

Thanks again for the opportunity to test! It was fun!

Also, I sometimes take Astaxanthin as an anti-oxidant....Crazy shit.

RE: Molecule A Blind Testing Reports and Final Summary - renny - 02-29-2016 5:33 AM

Very weird science. I used to raise koi and this was an important supplement to bring out their best color. It explains the color of PT-A as well. I would never have believed this would act pheromonally and in such a dramatic way.

PLaytime is krill sauce Wacko

RE: Molecule A Blind Testing Reports and Final Summary - Paradox - 02-29-2016 8:24 AM

First of all thank you John for sponsoring and Mark for hosting this test. This is a true test because the testing group assembled here are some of the best testers in the community.

Thank you John for the generous gifts. Not only the gifts that you are giving us for participation but for the gift that you are giving the community. The gift of knowledge. Finally someone from the community has decided to enhance the community by sharing a groundbreaking discovery with the community.

Now on to the semi bad news…your summary reads a little like a puff piece rather than an analysis of the molecule. It drips of excitement. To me Astaxanthin acted most similar to Androstenone. It is a lot less primal than Androstenone. I’m not sure if it’s giving off a mating signal as much as it is giving off a “let’s be close” signal. It is attractive. It attracts women but is it a beautifier or is it a pure attractant or is it a focuser or a bit of both?

I think that Renny’s name of it “playtime” is pretty close to describing the molecules effects. While it is not a silly fun molecule, Molecule A is playtime with a purpose.

I didn’t get the nervous energy at less than 4 drops. I felt upset.

(02-09-2016 1:56 PM)Paradox Wrote: This molecule does not fly well as it has no projection. For some reason this Molecules only works at a distance of 3-4 feet. I'm assuming that this molecule is heavy. Like Oxycontin heavy (1007.19 g/mol). I don't think that Molecule A is Oxy, I just think that it's heavy.

How is this for accuracy? During testing I said that Molecule A was heavy. Astaxanthin is a medium heavy molecule. It is twice as heavy as Alpha Androstenol and half as heavy as Oxytocin. I noticed that the projection was only 3-4 feet and Snoopyace noticed the same thing.

One question though. Is this a synthetic or natural production of astaxanthin? I’m just asking because the synthetic astaxanthin contains a mixture of stereoisomers.

RE: Molecule A Blind Testing Reports and Final Summary - DarkLord1 - 02-29-2016 12:55 PM

Let me just add why moelcule A might be better than say Androstenone or Androstadienone to some (me at least)....Some attraction without the fear and plenty of comfort without the crash and depression....Plus the social aspect to both men and women.

So I think meo-nol/a-nol...Androstadienone ' / Androstenone light....And we have not even added it to other molecules yet.

Hell, it might buffer Androstenone or keep them closer so that they can enjoy the effects more.

Long story, short - The puff piece is close to the mark.

RE: Molecule A Blind Testing Reports and Final Summary - Paradox - 02-29-2016 1:16 PM

(02-29-2016 12:55 PM)DarkLord1 Wrote: Let me just add why moelcule A might be better than say Androstenone or Androstadienone to some (me at least)....Some attraction without the fear and plenty of comfort without the crash and depression....Plus the social aspect to both men and women.

So I think meo-nol/a-nol...Androstadienone ' / Androstenone light....And we have not even added it to other molecules yet.

Hell, it might buffer Androstenone or keep them closer so that they can enjoy the effects more.

Long story, short - The puff piece is close to the mark.

Right. I agree with you "Androstenone light" is quite appropriate. Also, this quote should probably be added to the final description "Some attraction without the fear and plenty of comfort without the crash and depression...."

RE: Molecule A Blind Testing Reports and Final Summary - renny - 02-29-2016 2:12 PM

Why is this better than -Androstenone? Satisfaction -Androstenone works by creating a feeling in her that she needs sex. After the sex act the molecule remains and so the need remains...there may be a feeling of being sated momentarily, but the need remains. That's fine and can be a wonderful thing. Even better is a feeling of complete and utter satisfaction. Why? Because there have been very few times in her life that she has ever felt that way.

Following a PM conversation with Paradox about this molecule after the results were posted I did a comparison of playtime with New Pheromone Additive added and with a control (P78 the closest thing in my mind to playtime). Adding the -Androstenone cancelled out the complete satisfaction that comes from the playtime. There was still need despite exhaustion. The next day with the control my SO and I were left with the deep bonding that comes with complete satisfaction.

It's very difficult to explain, and the goals of a so called social/sexual mix are very different from a seduction/bonding mix...the very fact that it appears this molecule has a place in both is absolutely amazing.

And I'll just add my thanks here again for the opportunity to take part and for the open way in which bonadzz is going about sharing this with everyone...it's very much in keeping with the Pherotruth tradition.

RE: Molecule A Blind Testing Reports and Final Summary - bonadzz - 02-29-2016 2:42 PM

Great discussion guys, thanks for the input. I can add to the final summary that it has attractant properties in a non-primal way like Androstenone. It seems to be in agreement with everyone. I like Paradox's description of "Some attraction without the fear and plenty of comfort without the crash and depression"

Paradox, you were definitely spot on with it being a heavier molecule, good job on calling that one. Also to answer your question, this Astaxanthin was naturally derived not synthetic.

RE: Molecule A Blind Testing Reports and Final Summary - DataDragon - 05-23-2017 3:02 PM

Astaxanthin in the below research says it increases serotonin levels in the hippocampus, frontal cortex, striatum and hypothalamus. So we should see antidepressant effects on self and others when serotonin is low similar to effects from taking a SSRI antidepressant a bit.

Astaxanthin

RE: Molecule A Blind Testing Reports and Final Summary - AMMO5680 - 05-23-2017 6:22 PM

(05-23-2017 3:02 PM)DataDragon Wrote: Astaxanthin in the below research says it increases serotonin levels in the hippocampus, frontal cortex, striatum and hypothalamus. So we should see antidepressant effects on self and others when serotonin is low similar to effects from taking a SSRI antidepressant a bit.

Astaxanthin

Great point on Astaxanthin,
Now I am more eager to conti ue testing SWOON. I will definitely keep my eye out for those indicators you mentioned. The advantages of having those around you happy and realizing you are that source is what I am looking for with a social mone.

RE: Molecule A Blind Testing Reports and Final Summary - Dblr619 - 05-27-2017 8:18 AM

(05-23-2017 3:02 PM)DataDragon Wrote: Astaxanthin in the below research says it increases serotonin levels in the hippocampus, frontal cortex, striatum and hypothalamus. So we should see antidepressant effects on self and others when serotonin is low similar to effects from taking a SSRI antidepressant a bit.

Astaxanthin

That fits closely with my experiences in the field.

RE: Molecule A Blind Testing Reports and Final Summary - DataDragon - 05-27-2017 11:04 AM

Can someone please test Astaxanthin solo together with Androstadienone solo starting with very small quantities of Androstadienone . This would be good info for those making future blends, and combos. In blends like Swoon plus Goa it has not been reported as a success, but that can be many factors. Testing these two solo would answer if its the Androstadienone or being a blend.

Has anyone also added Astaxanthin to anything yet with improved results, be interesting to see how it might help other blends like an M3X + Astaxanthin or such...

I remember reading that they poured millions of dollars into research to find a viagra for women with no success. The closest they came was an anti-depressant that turned them on... So mood lifting may be a good approach.. Women get turned on more mentally and love things like romance novels and setting up the encounter in their minds, then the physically will occur. Men get turned on physically and visually.

RE: Molecule A Blind Testing Reports and Final Summary - Dblr619 - 05-27-2017 6:12 PM

Purchase both.
Test.
Report back.