Molecule C Blind Testing Reports and Final Summary

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Molecule C Blind Testing Reports and Final Summary - bonadzz - 01-23-2016 5:31 PM

Summary of molecule PT-C:

Molecule Name: This actually isn’t a single molecule per se, it’s actually a plant extract. The extract is saw palmetto.

Here’s a picture of it:

[Image: NDER05s.jpg?1]

Overall effects:
There was a lot of variation with the results between the testers but the common grounds that were felt was a light “disinhibiting” effect. Also a light social/chatty effect was noticed as well.

Self effects: Same as the effects as those on others, a light disinhibiting effect or a chatty/social effect.

Dosage: 1.5mg/ml or 75mcg/drop.

Final thoughts:
There was definitely some varying degrees of disinhibiting effects with this molecule. I personally don’t think I provided enough of the product to the testers to get an exact grasp of where the sweet spot is with this. I feel more testing is needed. I’ll have this molecule available on my site for people interested in doing their own experimentation with it. I will continue my research with it some more and see if I can find a place for it in a product. With molecules PT-A and PT-B I’ve been doing my own experimentation with them for the past year which is why I had a solid idea of what we were going to see in the blind testing. Unfortunately with PT-C I was only able to personally test for about a month before the blind testing. I originally had another molecule in PT-C’s place but it ended up being banned by the government right before the testing began so I had to switch it to something else. I feel potential in this one though. So I’ll keep working on it!

Thanks everyone!

-John

PT-C NP17 - NP17 - 01-23-2016 5:32 PM

I opened this up and smelled it from the bottle, and all my movements slowed down considerably.

All fascinating molecules, John!

RE: PT-C NP17 - NP17 - 01-26-2016 9:47 AM

I slow way down when I use this but now I seem to be sort of immune to that effect, though I do feel altered when I put it on. I haven't noticed anything after using this at one drop on three different occasions. Just short tests, though.

RE: PT-C NP17 - NP17 - 01-26-2016 1:46 PM

1/26/16: In a previous experiment on another day, I tried 1 drop of PT-C but discarded the results because I took a lot of ginseng right before. Ginseng is not a supplement I've been taking lately, so I didn't know if the self-effects were caused by the ginseng or PT-C. I was looking more for effects on others, but I didn't notice any. I will note that I felt very stressed and anxious. I attributed this to the high dose of ginseng raising my sensitivity to cortisol, because the effects were a lot like taking a lot of licorice, which is known to raise cortisol.

Today I tried 1 drop of PT-C.

After taking this, I definitely felt altered somehow but not sure how. As I went to the store to do some business, I felt very angry. Enraged is really the word. I felt like fighting or hurting people: my enemies, bullies, jerks. I also felt a little giddy. I've read somewhere that aggression and giddiness can be side effects of excessive estrogen. With my malnutrition, liver calcification, supplement usage, hormonal experimentation, and other factors, this is certainly possible. In fact, giddiness and aggression are feelings that I experience quite frequently but don't really act on. Since these are common feelings, I figured it probably wasn't the PT-C.

The only thing I've noticed from people is that they're being very friendly and attentive with me. Usually these would be hits, but nothing was out of the ordinary in comparison to what I normally experience. After all, these are people that are paid to give customer service.

Then after an hour or so I started to feel better. This started to pique my interest, but nothing definite yet. I then tried 5 more drops to try and get some reactions from people. Again, the girl at the coffee shop was very attentive and friendly with me. But the aggression and giddiness came back. It was the same intensity as the lower dose, and like before, it rose over the next 15 minutes, peaked, and then declined for the next hour and a half.

Then I wiped off the application point with witch hazel, scrubbed thoroughly with soapy water, and then wiped down hard with a towel. I immediately felt a bit different, and the aggression and giddiness seem to have disappeared. But I did NOT get the giddiness or aggression in my first two tests.

The slowness is somewhat reminiscent of A-TH-DOC, which I note because of its disinhibition. This may be totally unrelated biochemically or neurologically, just a correlation that comes to mind.

Considering all this, I believe PT-C is an emotional amplifier. It amplifies or brings to awareness feelings that are already there. It makes the reasonable course of an interaction seem more natural and desirable. Since the feelings I experienced while on it were feelings I would normally experience, and the interactions I had were interactions that would be expected, yet everything was amplified and brought to a somewhat noticeable excess, that is my observation on PT-C.

That, or it could be a social with estrogen-like effects, something like P74.

Either way, this is a tricky molecule. The ones that amplify or disinhibit are always the toughest to figure out because they don't cause consistent effects. They just bring to fruition what is already there or what would be expected.

First thoughts - Paradox - 01-29-2016 9:44 AM

I started this test with my usual routine. This is a testing technique that I learned from Tacitus:

The first thing that I always do is that I open the bottle and take a big whiff.

Next I'll try 2 drops or 2 sprays and sit quietly noting any self effects.

Since this was in a dropper bottle I thought that Molecule PT-C would be thicker. From my first whiff it smells heavily of ethanol.

As far as self effects, Molecule PT-C makes me want to close my eyes. I don't feel sleepy. I just want to close my eyes.

It's late so I may be just tired.

RE: PT-C NP17 - NP17 - 01-30-2016 4:20 PM

I tested 1 drop of PT-C again today around family. Normally this would be a great place to test out a social, but I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. And these are people that I know very well obviously and I almost always interact with without pheromones, so a good baseline. This molecule continues to elude me. "Emotional disinhibition" seems to be a kind of cop out, I will admit. Maybe I'm way off base, or maybe other people's reports will confirm this. It must be some kind of secondary effect, like it takes what people normally would think or do and makes it more ... ???

Or maybe it's placebo? It really does seem to slow me down and makes it seem like time is moving slower. This molecule is the reason I offered to mix the molecules together, because maybe its power is in buffering or modifying another molecule?

I'm going to try higher doses again next time. I tried 5 doses and got some store clerks to be attentive with me, I think. Maybe not.

PT-C - DarkLord1 - 01-31-2016 12:12 AM

Finally wore PT-C...

Actually got a couple of suggestive looks from women. One in her 30's and another in her 40's.

No self effects...I actually wore 4 drops spread between my wrist and neck.

Wore it at a bar: This is where the two ladies gave suggestive looks...One (40 year old) walked by me a couple of times. Nothing really from men...No anger and no friendliness either.

Wore it to the post office: An older lady (50's) was nice...The postman was not. Not sure if it was the mone or he was having a bad day.

wore it in a retail store: saw pupil dilation, but nothing blatant.

Overall- It does something subtle with the ladies. Can't really see any positive effects with men.

RE: PT-C NP17 - NP17 - 02-02-2016 2:28 PM

2/2/16: 5 drops PT-C.

Definite disinhibition. 2 old ladies at the store opened me up and talked to me. They were just commenting on what I was doing: shopping for pork, switching out broken eggs. There was feeling of fun, but one lady let me know her opinions on how meat isn't good for you and pretty soon we're not going to have meat anymore. This wasn't that bad, but it wasn't a positive, uplifting thing to tell a meat consumer. So like all disinhibitors, it has a double edge.

It does NOT seem to remove anxiety if it is present. I'm getting baseline levels of subclinical anxiety which I get from time to time. I saw this girl at the store who was a hostess where I ate dinner a few nights ago. I remembered her name because I was flirting with her. And I said hello to her and chatted her up. But she wasn't looking at me and didn't seem interested. If I was wearing something more alpha I would've stayed around, but I walked away. So there's a limit to the disinhibition.

First test - Paradox - 02-04-2016 7:26 AM

Well, as Spock would say..."Fascinating".

I smelled nothing on my initial whiff test. This test usually sets up my mind for what is to come. I don't know of any other way to put it but somewhere in my subconscious my brain is processing the molecule.

I was disappointed that neither A or B or C produced any obvious self effects or impressions.

So I applied 2 drops this morning and went about my day. Again, no real self effects except a relaxed feeling. But this is my first test so there may be more to that than just a rested state.

I started to notice a pattern as I interacted with more and more people. I seem to be getting a slew of apologies. Maybe respect hits. People seem to be respectful. Not Army general respectful but they seem to be more conscious of their actions around me.

Started test at 6:30am and I seem to be crashing now at 8:30am. I just got up and I need a nap.

This is just a first test so all of this could be in my imagination. I need to see these results repeated before I can confirm that this is what is happening.

I'll test at 2 or 3 drops tomorrow.

RE: PT-C - DarkLord1 - 02-09-2016 11:13 AM

Ok...Wore this one for two days in a row...

People are friendly and I see the dilated pupils quite frequently. Both ladies and men tended to respond in a positive way. Three interactions that

One lady...mid 20's...big boobs...was friendly...and we talked about sugar daddies...she brought it up. Her friend engages in this behavior and she asked what I thought about it. I responded that I don't judge and that as long as someone is not getting hurt...do what you like. We were talking about the super bowl at the time and I'm not sure how that topic came up, but it did.

A guy, probably 30's, and I spoke at length and he seemed positive...he also had dilated pupils. I tend to switch the conversation to the other person and this went on for some time.

Another woman, also 20's, chatted and smiled with me while I was waiting (inside) at an event. She opened up about some things and I said, "you need a hug"...She gave a nice full hug...which I always appreciate. I complimented her on her hug and she gave me another one when we stopped talking. Just friendly with those nice pupils...which I like to see..

Here is what I don't see...hair flips, them initiating kino, stuff like that...Strong reactions

Feels like maybe a "Nude Light" response...Nothing over the top, but positive interactions and no real effects on me that I can feel. IE...I don't feel chatty or bold...I'm pretty much in the same mind set that i was before putting it on....

Oh yeah, I also put on about 6 drops...which is more than I usually wear when I wear mones.

RE: PT-C - DarkLord1 - 02-09-2016 8:14 PM

Another series of hits that were a little different...

Spent time around 10 kids between the ages of 3 and 6...They had dilated pupils and were hyper as shit.

They didn't listen to me either and they normally do. They were happy and running around. All of the kids wanted to wrestle and they jumped me like WWE.

I leave the room for 15 minutes or so and they calm down...I go back in the room and its Fight Night again...So I escaped to the basement.

Parents were fine...general friendliness.

PT-C - renny - 02-12-2016 5:56 AM

PT-C 4 drops, Thought I would start high and come down for a change.

Took flowers and candy to my wife at her work and returned to the OHIP office that I mentioned in my journal report on getting my permanent residency a few weeks back.

Interactions at the store I bought the candy and flowers at interactions with my wife's colleagues and people in the waiting room where she works, Got the OHIP stuff done. Later in the evening parent teacher meetings with my kids teachers.

Nothing jumps out at me as a hit, Everything went well all day but nothing out of the ordinary and no real feeling of any sort of self effect.

IDK, I have tested a number of singles that just didn't reveal themselves to me and some that took a few tries, that's the thing with singles right? They just don't cooperate sometimes.

RE: PT-C - renny - 02-14-2016 7:33 AM

PT-C 3 drops added tiny dab Androtics TAF just inside my own nostril to see if a heightened awareness might help see effects from PT-C

Euchre night, fun friends, great evening. Flirting behavior between my Love and I and also saw some across the table, It's the day before Valentines Day so I can't really say that a little mild flirting behavior is pheromone related. So far if PT-C is doing anything it's doing on a level that is invisible to me. Will keep trying...

RE: PT-C - renny - 02-19-2016 11:19 AM

PT-C 2 drops out shopping/hanging out with my Love. I'm not seeing "hits" but I am gonna say I haven't had a bad day with this yet.

PT-C - Snoopyace - 02-22-2016 7:51 AM

Sorry I haven't posted here yet. I was ill with a nasty flu virus and was not able to test for over a week. Expect my report here in the next few days after I am sure of my results. Sorry and thank you for the patience.

Second test Molecule C - Paradox - 02-26-2016 7:59 AM

This test was at 4 drops. I applied the drops at 7:15 am.

At about 7:45 am I was wrangled into a long conversation by an older woman. Well into the conversation a younger woman joined in and I was stuck until 8am.

Molecule C has these women chatting away however, they are on topic and have not strayed.

Men pass by make a comment and then leave. they don't seem to want to engage in conversation.

At 4 drops I would call Molecule C the "old lady" molecule.

The women had no sexual interest at all. They were just chatting away. Molecule C has some sort of mother hen vibe to it or maybe a grandmother vibe.

At first (at 2 drops) I thought Molecule C was a respect molecule but now it looks like a respect your elder molecule.

Molecule C has to be a light molecule as it seems to have worn off in under an hour. Molecule C to me is similar to Alpha Androstenol in that Molecule C is light, fast diffusing and chatty.

Molecule C has to be a focuser also because now I feel sharply unfocused. It is now 8:44 am and I am crashing hard. I need a nap.

RE: PT-C - renny - 02-27-2016 6:36 AM

PT-C final summary:

Don't know what to say...I get nothing. Maybe it's my natural signature and so nothing changes when I wear it. Maybe bonadzz is just checking to see if I'm awake. Maybe I'm burned out from the others, except that they both still give me effects.

The only positive is that I saw no negatives. I hope everybody else is partying down with this molecule and I'm the odd guy out cuz otherwise it's a bust.

RE: PT-C - Snoopyace - 02-29-2016 10:26 AM

I'm not sure if it is because I got sick part way through testing or if it is just that I'm having a challenging time completely figuring out this molecule but this is a cursory report and hopefully I can provide a more detailed analysis later.

Initial thoughts are as follows. Self effects: I feel somewhat disinhibited when I wear this. I feel more inclined to walk up to someone and talk to them and want to chat. I notice that when my wife is around I want to get closer to her or just randomly touch her more often. This is not any sort of overwhelming compulsion by any means. Just a very subtle feeling that it'd be okay to be close to her (which is normal being that she's my bride but the feeling is different from the norm). I also noticed that I felt more inclined to KINO a woman I didn't know. Just a very subtle dropping of my guard. I've tested this so far at up to 5 drops both with and without a cover scent (Love Potion: Homme) and while I feel something at one drop, 3-4 is where I feel I'm getting the most out of the molecule. 5 drops does not feel anwhere near overdosing but it feels like a diminishing return. I don't notice a much stronger affect at 5 drops like I do going from 3 drops to 4. This feels slightly similar to Androtics (or Pheromonexs) P83 but it definitely does not feel like the same molecule. I know it is not very scientific to say 'feels like' but quite honestly it is the best way I can describe wearing each molecule.

Affects to others: Mrgreen

This could be entirely a coincidence but when I am not wearing pheromones, my chances of getting oral from my wife are pretty much slim and none. Depending on the product I am wearing, I see a rather large increase in her interest in spontaneously surprising me. Wearing PT-C, I have gotten 4 blow jobs in 2 days. It is not girl week and she is past ovulation, both indicators that normally she would not be interested in sex at all. There is really only one other pheromone situation that I have seen this reaction from her. That is when I am wearing SXD-9. This molecule PT-C reminds me of one of the components of SXD-9 in how it makes me feel but also in the reactions I see. Yes, I wear SXD-9 fairly often and while it does not GUARANTEE my desired outcome, it raises the chances considerably.

I notice people seem very friendly and interested in me when I am wearing PT-C. It really doesn't seem to carry very far on me, however. the cover scent helps but without it I have to be within a 3' perimeter of them. It does act relatively quickly in my experience. I notice that within about 3 seconds people seem to relax and become more open with their body language.

Hope this makes sense. It has been interesting testing this. Thanks again for the opportunity!

RE: PT-C - Snoopyace - 03-02-2016 7:36 PM

Sadly, my testing of PT-C is complete. I hadn't realized how much was in the bottle to begin with and got about 4 drops out before it was dry. I wasn't thinking and used Royal Oud type from The Fragrance Shop as my cover scent. I applied the oil scent and then dropped the Pheromones on top. It was kind of funny because I went grocery shopping and Royal Oud is a sillage monster. I was getting STARES from ten feet away. I'm not sure if the added diffusion pushed me into overdose territory for a bit or if my phero cloud was reaching random strangers and they didn't know how to react.

I found that people sort of gravitated in my direction as I was shopping. I got a small human Velcro effect and when I went to checkout the girl working the register seemed to get more cheerful the longer she was in my cloud. She is normally pretty reserved and seems a bit shy. I'm thinking the disinhibiting effects I've seen before were loosening her up. It was pretty funny to see. Sadly, by the time my bride got home the effect had apparently worn off. She was in a good mood and seemed more affectionate but nothing out of the ordinary really happened.

I wore 2 pumps of SXD-9 gel today and I really do feel the same molecule in both. If they are not the same, they must act in a similar fashion.

Last thoughts on Molecule C - Paradox - 03-08-2016 7:09 AM

This molecule is very feminine. Or i would say that it's very Beta. I would not be surprised at all if it turns out to be a Beta molecule.

In any case it screams empathy. It makes people think that I care. People talk to me when I'm wearing Molecule C because this molecule gives the impression that I am listening.

Again, this molecule has leadership qualities but it has a beta touch to it. The effect of this molecule reminds me of a 80% Beta Androstenol + 20% Alpha Androstenol mix.

It really has a motherly vibe to it. Really matriachrial.

RE: Molecule C Blind Testing Reports and Final Summary - renny - 03-24-2016 8:06 PM

It's great to see that others had success with this!

RE: Molecule C Blind Testing Reports and Final Summary - NP17 - 03-24-2016 8:13 PM

Oh now it works.

RE: Molecule C Blind Testing Reports and Final Summary - Snoopyace - 03-25-2016 8:48 AM

I think it's interesting that some of us were seeing a disinhibiting effect to varying degrees. My bride is a somewhat repressed and I think this made her feel like she could just open up and do what she was feeling. Gotta see if I can get some of this in a higher concentration, whatever this molecule is. Either that or I may have to try P83 around her.

RE: Molecule C Blind Testing Reports and Final Summary - renny - 03-25-2016 5:13 PM

I've never seen hits from wearing a "disinhibitor" so you could be onto something Snoopyace. Probably my blindspot.

RE: Molecule C Blind Testing Reports and Final Summary - bonadzz - 04-05-2016 5:58 PM

Summary of molecule PT-C:

Molecule Name: This actually isn’t a single molecule per se, it’s actually a plant extract. The extract is saw palmetto.

Here’s a picture of it:

[Image: NDER05s.jpg?1]

RE: Molecule C Blind Testing Reports and Final Summary - Snoopyace - 04-05-2016 6:19 PM

Thanks again for the opportunity to test these different molecules. Apparently I just need to look for disinhibiting pheromones to wear around my bride. I just thought she responded well to alcohol but the effects I saw from her seem to indicate that she just needs to relax.

RE: Molecule C Blind Testing Reports and Final Summary - DarkLord1 - 04-05-2016 6:45 PM

Yes, thank you for the opportunity to test. It was an interesting ride.

RE: Molecule C Blind Testing Reports and Final Summary - renny - 04-06-2016 6:39 AM

John, I thank you for doing this blind test, it was a hoot and I hope that you have opportunity to do this for the community again in the future. Positive vendor interaction with the community outside of product fanfare is a rare and woonderful thing.