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PT Single molecules? - Kalzon - 06-03-2017 12:21 PM

Hello,
Has anyone tried the Pheromone Treasures single molecules lately? Or anyone mixing their own formula using the Androstenone, Androstadienone ?
Please share the input.
Thank you.


RE: PT Single molecules? - Dblr619 - 06-03-2017 3:50 PM

(06-03-2017 12:21 PM)Kalzon Wrote:  Hello,
Has anyone tried the Pheromone Treasures single molecules lately? Or anyone mixing their own formula using the Androstenone, Androstadienone ?
Please share the input.
Thank you.

I LITERALLY just opened my new order from them that includes Androstadienone .
I will report in time.


RE: PT Single molecules? - Dblr619 - 06-04-2017 9:26 PM

Very initial impression of Ptres Androstadienone ....

Smoother
Not really feeling down
Crushier
Did not project (duh...alcohol vs oil) until *I added 15 drops of iso e super concentrate* and shook the hell outta it. NOW it projects ok.
Seems to sharpen the hook of NA/Androstadienone


RE: PT Single molecules? - Kalzon - 06-05-2017 1:04 AM

(06-04-2017 9:26 PM)Dblr619 Wrote:  Very initial impression of Ptres Androstadienone ....

Smoother
Not really feeling down
Crushier
Did not project (duh...alcohol vs oil) until *I added 15 drops of iso e super concentrate* and shook the hell outta it. NOW it projects ok.
Seems to sharpen the hook of NA/Androstadienone

Hello Dblr619, thank you, nice to see your reply. What a coinsidence Smile
You tried already!
oooo :O ISO e super, that is the nice idea you did. I also read about it on websites.
There is this 'precussion' method of mixing. You hold the bottle firmly in one hand and tap(hit a bit harder) the bottom of the bottle on the palm of the other hand 200 times. You will get a serious blend.

So are you planning to create mixes using only other PTreas single molecules?
(or anyone already doing?)


RE: PT Single molecules? - Dblr619 - 06-06-2017 5:35 PM

(06-05-2017 1:04 AM)Kalzon Wrote:  Hello Dblr619, thank you, nice to see your reply. What a coinsidence Smile
You tried already!
oooo :O ISO e super, that is the nice idea you did. I also read about it on websites.
There is this 'precussion' method of mixing. You hold the bottle firmly in one hand and tap(hit a bit harder) the bottom of the bottle on the palm of the other hand 200 times. You will get a serious blend.

So are you planning to create mixes using only other PTreas single molecules?
(or anyone already doing?)
Not really.
I only use singles to enhance blends


RE: PT Single molecules? - Kalzon - 06-07-2017 12:13 AM

(06-06-2017 5:35 PM)Dblr619 Wrote:  Not really.
I only use singles to enhance blends

Ok, Smile
Then I guess you are using -Androstenone -Androstanone -enol too..?
What I was thinking for e.g.- if anyone has mixed 2mg androsteNONE, 1mg androsteNOL, 0.5mg androsteDIENONE and got something like New Pheromone Additive with similar reasults?

I am focusing on Pheromone Treasures single molecules because they are much potent and cost low, but still not much reviewed.


RE: PT Single molecules? - Dblr619 - 06-08-2017 12:19 AM

(06-07-2017 12:13 AM)Kalzon Wrote:  Ok, Smile
Then I guess you are using -Androstenone -Androstanone -enol too..?
What I was thinking for e.g.- if anyone has mixed 2mg androsteNONE, 1mg androsteNOL, 0.5mg androsteDIENONE and got something like New Pheromone Additive with similar reasults?

I am focusing on Pheromone Treasures single molecules because they are much potent and cost low, but still not much reviewed.
I misspoke...
I meant the P series.
I have yet to use individual molecules besides Androstadienone
I have yet to be disappointed with anything from Ptres
Maybe you'll invent the next great blend
Happy testing


RE: PT Single molecules? - Ekscentra - 06-08-2017 1:26 AM

(06-07-2017 12:13 AM)Kalzon Wrote:  Ok, Smile
Then I guess you are using -Androstenone -Androstanone -enol too..?
What I was thinking for e.g.- if anyone has mixed 2mg androsteNONE, 1mg androsteNOL, 0.5mg androsteDIENONE and got something like New Pheromone Additive with similar reasults?

I am focusing on Pheromone Treasures single molecules because they are much potent and cost low, but still not much reviewed.

New Pheromone Additive doesn't contain Androstadienone . This is a myth. I get depression from any mix on the market that contains Androstadienone , no matter how low the dose or what it's buffered with (including both C4 Oil and Ladykiller from HAX). I can wear old New Pheromone Additive on a daily basis for weeks on end with no depression, lethargy, or any Androstadienone -associated side effects.

As I recall, this experiment has been tried before. It fell well short of the mark - New Pheromone Additive is far more than just a blend of simple, common molecules - if it were, a suitable replacement would have been formulated by now. There"s only so far you can go with those three on their own. If you want the real deal, buy it from LaCroy, but if you're expecting to come close to New Pheromone Additive using simple mixes, I'd lower those expectations. Many before you wanted the same thing, but attempting to reverse engineer a mix is no simple matter. If it were, you'd have plenty of New Pheromone Additive clones to choose from at this very moment. There's a reason it's stood the test of time.


RE: PT Single molecules? - Kalzon - 06-13-2017 9:09 AM

(06-08-2017 1:26 AM)Ekscentra Wrote:  New Pheromone Additive doesn't contain Androstadienone . This is a myth. I get depression from any mix on the market that contains Androstadienone , no matter how low the dose or what it's buffered with (including both C4 Oil and Ladykiller from HAX). I can wear old New Pheromone Additive on a daily basis for weeks on end with no depression, lethargy, or any Androstadienone -associated side effects.

As I recall, this experiment has been tried before. It fell well short of the mark - New Pheromone Additive is far more than just a blend of simple, common molecules - if it were, a suitable replacement would have been formulated by now. There"s only so far you can go with those three on their own. If you want the real deal, buy it from LaCroy, but if you're expecting to come close to New Pheromone Additive using simple mixes, I'd lower those expectations. Many before you wanted the same thing, but attempting to reverse engineer a mix is no simple matter. If it were, you'd have plenty of New Pheromone Additive clones to choose from at this very moment. There's a reason it's stood the test of time.

Oh, thank you for reply. So I guess people have already tried and didn't get close. So you are indicating that the New version New Pheromone Additive does not match the old one either? (Gone with the wind like A314?) .... or What is the difference? Do they sell both versions, or it is just replaced?


RE: PT Single molecules? - Kalzon - 06-13-2017 9:24 AM

(06-08-2017 12:19 AM)Dblr619 Wrote:  I misspoke...
I meant the P series.
I have yet to use individual molecules besides Androstadienone
I have yet to be disappointed with anything from Ptres
Maybe you'll invent the next great blend
Happy testing

Oh ok alright.
So I guess everything from PT is legit.
Yes I shall try to invent Big Grin
Thank you


RE: PT Single molecules? - DarkLord1 - 06-13-2017 10:14 AM

I play with Astaxanthin....both solo and with mixes.

Brightens my mood and everyone around me. If the person is naturally depressed, I see much stronger reactions.

I have Instant Shine and TAA and Astaxanthin produces stronger responses for me.


RE: PT Single molecules? - wiserd - 06-13-2017 5:17 PM

(06-13-2017 10:14 AM)DarkLord1 Wrote:  I play with Astaxanthin....both solo and with mixes.

Brightens my mood and everyone around me. If the person is naturally depressed, I see much stronger reactions.

I have Instant Shine and TAA and Astaxanthin produces stronger responses for me.

Interesting. I could never get astaxanthin to do anything. What brand and concentration do you use?


RE: PT Single molecules? - DarkLord1 - 06-13-2017 5:26 PM

(06-13-2017 5:17 PM)wiserd Wrote:  Interesting. I could never get astaxanthin to do anything. What brand and concentration do you use?

I got mine from Pheromone Treasures. Not sure about the concentration.

I've worn 8 drops of it and I'm so damn happy that it's crazy...Happy, social and everything I thought Instant Shine would be.

I put it on my neck and behind my ears and I really spread it around. I've found that the more skin I cover (with any pheromone), the better result and I can get away with smaller doses.

I wear Astaxanthin with GOA and women flock around me to the point where it's almost uncomfortable.


RE: PT Single molecules? - Ekscentra - 06-13-2017 6:11 PM

(06-13-2017 9:09 AM)Kalzon Wrote:  Oh, thank you for reply. So I guess people have already tried and didn't get close. So you are indicating that the New version New Pheromone Additive does not match the old one either? (Gone with the wind like A314?) .... or What is the difference? Do they sell both versions, or it is just replaced?

The New New Pheromone Additive is still extraordinarily well-liked (the LaCroy version, not to be confused with the Love-Scent version), with what seems to be a roughly even split between which version is preferred. Unlike A314, it's still worth every penny.


RE: PT Single molecules? - MMM - 06-13-2017 9:11 PM

(06-13-2017 5:26 PM)DarkLord1 Wrote:  I wear Astaxanthin with GOA and women flock around me to the point where it's almost uncomfortable.

Ratios? PleeZe. popcorn


RE: PT Single molecules? - ducklingswan - 06-13-2017 10:30 PM

(06-13-2017 5:26 PM)DarkLord1 Wrote:  
(06-13-2017 5:17 PM)wiserd Wrote:  Interesting. I could never get astaxanthin to do anything. What brand and concentration do you use?

I got mine from Pheromone Treasures. Not sure about the concentration.

I've worn 8 drops of it and I'm so damn happy that it's crazy...Happy, social and everything I thought Instant Shine would be.

What's your ratio and the limit of drops on overdosing?


RE: PT Single molecules? - Kalzon - 06-13-2017 11:16 PM

(06-13-2017 10:14 AM)DarkLord1 Wrote:  I play with Astaxanthin....both solo and with mixes.

Brightens my mood and everyone around me. If the person is naturally depressed, I see much stronger reactions.

I have Instant Shine and TAA and Astaxanthin produces stronger responses for me.

Thats nice to know. Must try it in combination with other mixes. PTreas 2mg per 10ml bottle.
Astaxanthin is usually used as suppliment. Its a red dye like material found in marine plants and animals. And the dossage of the pills that are available are 4mg... or 12mg per tablet.
If a 5to 20McG of application can do such a thing to you and people around...can you imagine the drug effect on the 12MG consumer? Mega shok ....or... I mean.... lets keep our mouths shut.. Beee


RE: PT Single molecules? - Kalzon - 06-13-2017 11:25 PM

(06-13-2017 6:11 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  The New New Pheromone Additive is still extraordinarily well-liked (the LaCroy version, not to be confused with the Love-Scent version), with what seems to be a roughly even split between which version is preferred. Unlike A314, it's still worth every penny.

Thats a good to hear. Thank you. Lacroy to catch.


RE: PT Single molecules? - DarkLord1 - 06-14-2017 7:42 AM

(06-13-2017 9:11 PM)MMM Wrote:  Ratios? PleeZe. popcorn

MMM....Its been awhile.

I usually wear 4:4....have gone as high as 8 drops with Astaxantin and 6 with GOA.

Hard to believe, but even with that much on, I can't sense an OD.

Went to a bar wth the 4:4 and people just stayed by me talking and laughing. I moved around and people followed....Pied Piper mix.
(06-13-2017 11:16 PM)Kalzon Wrote:  Thats nice to know. Must try it in combination with other mixes. PTreas 2mg per 10ml bottle.
Astaxanthin is usually used as suppliment. Its a red dye like material found in marine plants and animals. And the dossage of the pills that are available are 4mg... or 12mg per tablet.
If a 5to 20McG of application can do such a thing to you and people around...can you imagine the drug effect on the 12MG consumer? Mega shok ....or... I mean.... lets keep our mouths shut.. Beee

Tried to make it myself and there is a reason that I'm not a chemist. Red all over the place.


RE: PT Single molecules? - Kalzon - 06-14-2017 10:01 AM

(06-14-2017 7:42 AM)DarkLord1 Wrote:  MMM....Its been awhile.

I usually wear 4:4....have gone as high as 8 drops with Astaxantin and 6 with GOA.

Hard to believe, but even with that much on, I can't sense an OD.

Went to a bar wth the 4:4 and people just stayed by me talking and laughing. I moved around and people followed....Pied Piper mix.
(06-13-2017 11:16 PM)Kalzon Wrote:  Thats nice to know. Must try it in combination with other mixes. PTreas 2mg per 10ml bottle.
Astaxanthin is usually used as suppliment. Its a red dye like material found in marine plants and animals. And the dossage of the pills that are available are 4mg... or 12mg per tablet.
If a 5to 20McG of application can do such a thing to you and people around...can you imagine the drug effect on the 12MG consumer? Mega shok ....or... I mean.... lets keep our mouths shut.. Beee

Tried to make it myself and there is a reason that I'm not a chemist. Red all over the place.

awwww... may be to unleash its power, it needs to convert from red to transparent. Lets add bleach Yes

ok jokes appart, Big Grin , so which PTreas blend do you think contains Astaxanthin? Treasureful shine or...?


RE: PT Single molecules? - DarkLord1 - 06-14-2017 10:42 AM

Bonadzz has already said that Astaxanthin is in swoon. And he figured out how to provide Astaxanthin in a form that works, so to the winner, go the spoils.