(04-03-2013 11:02 AM)phertest Wrote:  I was reading Nbullies blog and he suggests that P96 is a very good sleep aid. I was wondering whether it might alpha-thdoc. The reason is because I once wore a very complicated mix with roughly 40mcg's of a-thdoc... although I was a little tired after a few hours, I noticed some very lovey dovey faces on some of the girls.

It is my understanding that P96 is great with a314 and adds a romantic sort of vibe... which is what I believe was projected that day.

If not, what could it be? we have a few new molecules out and some of the summaries that are floating around are pretty dated.

(04-07-2013 12:27 PM)phertest Wrote:  Have you tried P97?

(04-07-2013 10:30 PM)velinxs Wrote:  could safely assume they all do, would more so look at which steroids have drastic pro-hormonal uses and were banned in recent times, likely our p96 n whatnot is on that list, or atleast derived from something listed as banned.

ill do some google searching after work tomorrow.

when was p96 discontinued? what other p series was discontinued and when? p86?

(04-19-2013 5:53 AM)velinxs Wrote:  we just need to find someone who happens to have a laboratory / research facility / professional and have them start ordering from pharmaceutical suppliers

...we can dream, right?.

(06-12-2013 1:13 PM)phertest Wrote:  Dexter, would you happen to know how much this might cost?

I think if its really that badly wanted and its not totally outrageous, some of us could get the money together.

(06-12-2013 1:13 PM)phertest Wrote:  Dexter, would you happen to know how much this might cost?

I think if its really that badly wanted and its not totally outrageous, some of us could get the money together.

(06-20-2013 1:13 PM)phertest Wrote:  Just in case you guys haven't noticed, XiSt by SteveO (or pheromoneXS) contains an ingredient called EpiAlloPregnanolone... the mix was based off Mustangs IBF mix which contained P96 as a core ingredient.

Since theres no reports or info on the molecule, I am curious... could it be... "the one" ?

Btw, since its openly labelled on the product, I'm pretty sure its reasonable to openly discuss this.

Quote:Pheromones we use


Below is a list of the pheromones and putative pheromones we use in our blends. Many of these individual pheromones will be available again for sale to the consumer and pheromone enthusiast in pre-diluted spray form and as concentrates soon.

Specific Pheromones:
Androstadienone
Androstanone
Androstenol, Alpha
Androstenol, Beta
Androsterone
Androsterone, Epi
Androsterone, Epi-S
Androsterone-S
DHEA
DHEA-S
Estratetraenol
Estratetriendiol
Estratetrienolone
Etiocholanolone
Pregnanolone
Pregnanolone, Allo-
Pregnanolone, Epi-
Pregnanolone, Epi-Allo-
Pregnanolone, Epi-Allo-S
Pregnenolone
Pregnenolone-S
Tetrahydrocorticosterone (TH-DOC)
Tetrahydro-dehydrocorticosterone, Allo- (Allo-TH-DOC)

Diane Wrote:These are my compiled research notes based on my post searches and also based on my own and my husband's experimentation. Please feel free to add to this post, correct where needed and add your own experiences with any of these. Forgive me for not crediting anyone for the work you've done, which I've unashamedly stolen for the compilation below. You all have my gratitude as do each of those who continue to test, test, test, and report on these and other molecules.

Pheromones notes:

A314/m "“ Mixture, Androstenone, Androsterone, Alpha- and Beta-Androstenol, TAA to buffer; Alpha male, confident, trust me vibe. 18 Pheromones total "“ 80% Androsterone , 20% steering molecules. Gives wearer the aura of the true Alpha Male, induces trust from other males, leadership, cooperation. Calming, trusting, authority vibe.

Androstenol "“ Communications and connection family of pheromones, produced in fresh sweat in both men and women. Androstenol also creates an aura of youth and health, which can help to create an impression of reproductive fitness, which is attractive. "“nols have a short life span, 2-3 hours. An over dose (OD) of Androstenol can cause: headaches, a feeling akin to a kind of drunken tiredness; an impression of weakness (making you appear a lot less alpha).

Alpha androstenol makes most people exposed very chatty, expressive, and even giddy, similar to a glass or two of champagne. It creates a friendly approachably impression, and can make the wearer seem less intimidating and more approachable. It seems to be more of a neurotic chatty pheromone than the beta isomer, touching more on empathy and romantic feelings.

Beta "“Androstenol promotes deeper connections and conversation and promotes honesty. At high doses (20-40 mcg) it can create an almost mystical or spiritual aura.

Androstadienone "“ component of male sweat, dubbed the "love" pheromone because it induces cuddling and affectionate behavior in females. Also causes heightened feelings of elation and calm in females. Showed in studies to increase positive mood and prevent the increase in negative mood in women. Also, body states of sensuality and warmth (measured by a visual analog scale) were increased or maintained by this pheromone. Affects last 1 to 2 hours after exposure. Can cause a pretty nasty rebound effect.

Androstenone- Negative bad boy pheromone. Causes irritabiliy and agression and sexual desire. Has the ability to cause arousal in women during their ovulation. It also has the ability cause irritation, nervousness, and agression in both men and women. With age you can increase the dose up to 15mcg for ages 50+ due to the depletion of natural -none production. Over 5.0 mcg can cause OD, agitation in others, being ignored by others, or other unpleasant side effects.

Androsterone "“ purely masculine and dominant pheromone, peaceful dominant alpha male pheromone; mood elevating effect on women. Causes High Perceived Value in male. Booster for other pheromone signals. Main ingredient in A314 .

Cops "“ Long chain fatty acid pheromone secreted by vagina when near semen; increases testosterone production of nearby males by 130% usually within 10-20 minutes of exposure. Reported to enhance females' perceived sexiness and attraction value.

Essence of Woman "“ Essence of a Woman from Lovescent. Copulins.


Kitten's PS Bubble Gum "“ recipe: 10 drops Essence of Woman to 4.0 mL Aqualina Pink Sugar perfume mixed in 5.0 mL to go bottle; let sit for 4 hours to compost.

My version: Diane's Butterscotch Cops - 1 drop Essence of Woman per Spray Aqualina Pink Sugar in 5 mL to go bottle; let sit for two days. This smells really yummy without being quite so sugary. Husband loves it.


Instant Female Magic For Men "“ Can make men feel/seem less Alpha. Pick me up spray for irritable women. Reported to lighten the mood of women exposed to it.

Instant Honesty "“ Alpha and Beta "“ Androstenol (70% beta, 30% alpha); promotes depth, close feelings, intense rapport, secrets, bonding, and extreme intimacy in the right context.

Instant Openess - Alpha and Beta "“ Androstenol (70% alpha, 30% beta); promotes a quantity of conversion/chatter box, lightness, good feelings.

Instant Sexiness/A "“ TAL , cops and undisclosed pheromones.

Instant Sexiness/B "“ TAH, cops and undisclosed pheromones.

Instant Shine "“ TAA is the main ingredient, gives you an aura of youth and confidence. Also contains TAF and other pheromones.

Lust After Me - Alpha"“ Androstenol , Cops and other pheromones .

Methoxyestratetraenone - methoxy-estratetraenone"“ At 150 mcg = instant horniness. Female happy sauce when paired with TAF , P103 and beta -nol . At high doses it can cause mild, but pleasant muscle contractions. Men find it centering and calming. In women it causes a sensual slowing down of sensation and an intense appreciation for all physical stimulation. (Paired with P103 and TAF = best sex ever!)

MX 134 "“ TAL, Androstenone, Cops , Androstenols; gives aura of Alpha Female competence and leadership.

MX274 "“ TAA, P74 heavy social "“ attention and mood lifter, empathy and closeness.

MX282 "“ sexy social.

MX335 "“ TAA , TAH , P79 , TAF , TAL , Copulins, Androstenol plus others. 54.6875 mcgs per spray of 8 pheromones/molecules, total. TAH heavy. Center of Attention, Life of the Party social, sexy mix.

P74 "“ Promote empathy and attention.

P79 "“ Pheromone enhancer, intensifier, synergy; helps others speak their mind and act on their thoughts or feelings; also a mood and sensation intensifier, eliminates defeatest attitudes and negativity, grounded confidence "“ needs to be steered in appropriate way, since this will enhance any/all moods, including bad ones. Possible combo: P79+TAF+p93 to get things done. Also reported to have sexual vibe for some. Since it is an intensifier when paired with sex Pheromones it should do the trick. Very fickle molecule with instant changeability, so timing is crucial for wearing it.

P83 "“ chatty, sexy putative, known to diminish inhibitions, can make one nervous, but can be calmed with 4x P86 (1:4 ratio)).

P86 "“ Relaxing, Can be excessively sedating if not paired with something more aggressive. Kicks in at about 20 minutes. Can cause a "shallow Hal" effect of making normally unattractive people very attractive. Causes brightening of the visual field, similar to TAA. High dosage can cause mild amphetamine-like reactions in some people.

P87 "“ Anti-depressant mood lifter. Causes lizard-like, complete emotional blunting, but intense focus on minute details. Very cerebral and very cold molecule.

P90 - this is a single molecule putative that causes extreme physical motivation to get things done. Great for large scale projects that don't require a huge amount of attention to detail, like clearing out closets, or straightening up the garage. Effects last 8 hours or more. Can cause sleeplessness.

P91 - Cheerful, loving, happy molecule. Small dose goes a long way.

P93 "“ this is a single molecule pheromone that causes group motivation and participation, and work supportive of the wearer (great with A314 ). More caffein like self effects reported from males, attractive for women. Paired with TAF this is an incredible molecule for focusing on tasks that need to get done, making one tirelessly obsessed with order and cleanliness without a single bit of irritation. Very nice nesting molecule. Reported to be arousing for some women.

P96 - this single molecule promotes cheerfulness and good humor.

P100 "“ focus and get things done, motivational, not irritated, just concentrating and getting it done, OCD deal closer for chores. Great paired with TAF for some. My personal experience is this is a little too much like an amphetamine and it has an extreme edginess and figgity feeling to it that I hate "“ too much like caffeine overdose. May be a sex-linked or genetic based difference, since others report only motivational effects.

P102 "“ up to 25.0 mcg promotes oral desires, like kissing. Between 25.0 and 50.0 mcg that desire turns to actual hunger for food. Increases non-visual sensuality, music appreciation.

P103 "“ Disinhibitor (37.5mcg), can be intoxicating and limiting to intellectual capabilities at doses higher than 25.0 mcg . Removes feelings of social isolation and inhibition. Can induce mindless happiness and total lack of censoring of conversation... but happily, rather than blurt out negative or damaging stuff. Can cause a nebulous, undefined hunger, if not sexually satisfied this turns into insatiable hunger for food.

P107 - causes amphetamine-like motivation. Can cause sleeplessness.

TAA "“ Single pheromone, reduces personal space, makes people feel better and brighten up, produces a fun, youthful, vibrant vibe. This pheromone has a short life span, 2-3 hours, but can be slowed down with the addition of lotion on top. Also known as "happy sauce". Main ingredient in Instant Shine, MX274. Also component of A314.

TAC "“ Calming, laid back, similar to P74 . High doses "“ unpredictable hilarity. Induces lower body relaxation, proported to enhance ability for women to orgasm; "cool, empty" pheromone, not good paired with TAA or P74 . This pheromone is good for gym workouts, but will inhibit heart rate elevation quite a bit. Workouts, especially lower body and cardio are easier. Time moves faster. Causes some disorientation, forgetfullness, clumsiness. TAC is very cool, distant. Can make others seem cold and uncaring when used alone at high doses. Definitely a relaxant. Harmonizing in social mixes. Buffer for "“none.

TAF "“ Single pheromone, focus attention to details, increases attention to small details, can cause spaciness at higher doses. Reduces social fear. Can cause jumpiness if too stimulated visually (not good for online gaming or intense visual stimulation). Encourages "stop and smell the roses" sensuality.

TAH "“ Single pheromone, gives Marylin Monroe sexy kitten aura to women; enhances smell and social sensuous feelings in men (easy to OD men). Can cause disrespect from some men. Makes me a little to pouty when I wear it.

TAL "“ Single pheromone, gives Angelina Jolie sexy goddess aura to women. Can cause bitchiness at high doses.

Turn Up The Heat "“ Androstenone and buffering pheromones to attenuate the negative effects of Androstenone. Arrousing for women, causes intensity of sensation and focus for women during sex.

(06-22-2013 10:33 AM)velinxs Wrote:  So why was it discontinued then if its still readily make-able?

(07-18-2013 2:21 AM)TwistedOstrich Wrote:  I have a precious bottle of p96 if there is something to compare it with ;) I would love to figure this one out...

(07-18-2013 9:37 AM)phertest Wrote:  TO, have you tried XiSt? It seems we've come across something that may be p96 or very close to it from what Kimba said. If you've had experience with it, I'd probably give it a shot to see if you can pick out the vibe of it

(07-24-2013 6:31 AM)phertest Wrote:  Very very interesting find guys - check this out. I've only used XiSt as I haven't had the opportunity to try P96 on its own... and very likely we wont either. However, I've been reading DancingJokers journal to try and find whats in his Loveboat mix, but came across this instead:

http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-journals/djs-back-business-new-lab-journal-16210-5.html

Just take a look over it and also the results myself and a few others have been having using XiSt - the effects are described so well and articulately, it seems as if its almost word for word my experiences with it so far (if you've been reading over the 105a/XiSt threads recently).

Very compelling evidence to say the least

(07-24-2013 6:31 AM)phertest Wrote:  Very very interesting find guys - check this out. I've only used XiSt as I haven't had the opportunity to try P96 on its own... and very likely we wont either. However, I've been reading DancingJokers journal to try and find whats in his Loveboat mix, but came across this instead:

http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-journals/djs-back-business-new-lab-journal-16210-5.html

Just take a look over it and also the results myself and a few others have been having using XiSt - the effects are described so well and articulately, it seems as if its almost word for word my experiences with it so far (if you've been reading over the 105a/XiSt threads recently).

Very compelling evidence to say the least

(07-25-2013 5:32 PM)dexter Wrote:  I remember I posted on another forum that Dancing Joker must be imaginary because he only gave the good stuff to Steve to try out, and steve said it was excruciatingly awesome, but nobody else ever got to give it a try.

(07-21-2013 12:30 AM)PheroPhiend Wrote:  Interesting. Epiallopregnanolone (Alloepipregnanolone ) is supposed to be a synonym for Allopregnanolone, 5α-pregnan-3β-ol-20-one .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allopregnanolone

However, what's mentioned in the Wikipedia article is a different molecule than Epi. Allopreg is actually 3a,5a-Tetrahydroprogesterone or allopregnan-3α-ol-20-one . The latter is the classic IUPAC name. It would be great to know precisely . 5α-pregnan-3β-ol-20-one is CAS 516-55-2 . allopregnan-3α-ol-20-one is a potent GABA modulator .

(07-21-2013 12:30 AM)PheroPhiend Wrote:  Interesting. Epiallopregnanolone (Alloepipregnanolone ) is supposed to be a synonym for Allopregnanolone, 5α-pregnan-3β-ol-20-one .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allopregnanolone

However, what's mentioned in the Wikipedia article is a different molecule than Epi. Allopreg is actually 3a,5a-Tetrahydroprogesterone or allopregnan-3α-ol-20-one . The latter is the classic IUPAC name. It would be great to know precisely . 5α-pregnan-3β-ol-20-one is CAS 516-55-2 . allopregnan-3α-ol-20-one is a potent GABA modulator .

(09-01-2013 7:04 PM)Albion9 Wrote:  When I was researching Erox and ER303-muricin aglycone...the new pheromone like molecule...I found out it was synthesized from one of the 5a-pregnan molecules. I'm no chemist so a lot of the technical stuff is lost on me. I did copy and paste that 5a-prenan compound into a search engine and found a company in the north east US that sells a LOT of different forms of this stuff. I'm just killing some time witch my phone now so I can't provide links but it wasn't difficult to find at all. I remember reading which one it was syntesized from...and ther are a LOT. Maybe some of the more

(09-01-2013 7:11 PM)Albion9 Wrote:  Chemistry educated on the forum can make more sense of this. Sorry for the way this is posted. I'm not wearing my glasses and my phone has a mind of its own at times. All I know is that what you are saying about p96 sounds a lot like the results they got in the testing of muricin aglycone. They may not be the same but I would venture a guess and say they are very similar.

(09-02-2013 1:23 PM)lefer58 Wrote:  [omanquote='Pagodeiro' pid='102197' dateline='1378148466']
Several points speak against ordering with STEVE

Shipping is expensive .. 24 Dollars to Europe .. i get free shipping with Androtics .. with True Pheromones .. with Alpha Dreams .. with HAX .. and Garry only takes a few bucks .. and Love Scent has way lower shipping rates as well ..

only 2 weeks return policy ... that's the minium he has to offer by laws .. i get way more from nearly all other vendors ..

Evolve .. Ascend .. Flirt .. Vibe .. Bliss .. did not overly impress me .. ( Evolve is nice stuff .. but other mothers have more beautiful daughters )

AND ... i do not need to buy any stuff that is supposed to contain any P96 .. i have a full 30ml's 100mcg per spray bottle of P96 standing in my mone cabinet ..

AND .. i have allopregnanolone from Chris ... and that's not anywhere near to the effects of P96 .. the dosages you need do not fit as well ..

AND .. there is another product out there that really contains P96 .... and i'm not going to tell you peeps

Pago

(09-02-2013 8:13 AM)phertest Wrote:  Level, would it happen to be unscented? I believe any fragrance would make it near impossible to analyze whats in it. I believe a cheaper route would be to confirm whether allopregnanolone is actually the same thing -- could be done by reputable member s of the forum if we knew where to buy it from.

Id really like to try it to add romance ro already amazing mixes.

Very interesting observation Blade. I mentioned something to that effect in the xist threads a while back.... it feels as id youve been forgiven because youre just that amazing of a person and all your good qualities are amplified... now that I have a good idea of how the product works, I believe it can be improved and tailored to many situations.

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(05-26-2012 6:01 PM)Alpha Dream Wrote:  Compounds related to pregnadienols or pregnadienones. I do not believe that ER 303 is the best that can come from this line of compounds. I think there may be found the holy grail of pheromones in this line of compounds.

(06-22-2013 10:33 AM)velinxs Wrote:  So why was it discontinued then if its still readily make-able?

(09-02-2013 8:30 AM)Pagodeiro Wrote:  I'd really like to know the source for such compounds ....

muricin aglycone .. is daaa shit ...

Pago

(08-30-2013 8:14 AM)mark-in-dallas Wrote:  Well now, that's not quite true because a couple of years ago I had the chance to test Dancing Joker's "FPPX" mix in alcohol and oil versions, and yeah it was pretty damn good stuff.

(09-02-2013 1:01 PM)Pagodeiro Wrote:  AND .. i have allopregnanolone from Chris ... and that's not anywhere near to the effects of P96 .. the dosages you need do not fit as well ..

Pago

(09-17-2013 10:41 AM)pheronik Wrote:  I'm trying to get some source for muricin aglycone. Please share if you find any.

Same here.

Cheers!

(09-17-2013 6:34 PM)JAYCEE Wrote:  Erox is nothing like P96 in my experience. With Erox I get nothing. With P96 I get hits through the glass at the drive thru teller.

(09-17-2013 6:34 PM)JAYCEE Wrote:  Erox is nothing like P96 in my experience. With Erox I get nothing. With P96 I get hits through the glass at the drive thru teller.

(09-19-2013 6:02 AM)Pagodeiro Wrote:  Just to clarify ..

the product i´m convinced that P96 is in is not made by Erox !

Pago

(06-21-2016 5:23 PM)Jimmycrack Wrote:  well after a limited trial of batch of p96 bought recently and then subsequent review of posts, I can see why the hype and mystery is justified. I can happily position p96 and p130 and valuable items to have. I want to provide a broader test of p96 in different demographics but frankly I'm confident it is solid for what I use it for - smoothing out powerful none/rones.

(06-22-2016 3:42 AM)sunnyday Wrote:  That's great. I like P96 too. What mcg per spray do you have and how many sprays do you normally use for 'smoothing out'? Thanks

(06-24-2016 3:56 PM)dexter Wrote:  After reading this thread I tried some P96 and P130 to find some fun with the girlfriend 2 days ago, but it was such a mix that i can't attribute any effect to one or the other. I did use a 50mcg spray of each with about 20mcg of TAC and wow, now that i think of it, there was way too much mixed in. But i will pay more attention next time.

(09-17-2016 12:41 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  It's the same putative.

(11-21-2016 12:24 AM)Muad'Dib Wrote:  What dosage is a typical one to order from Androtics?

(11-21-2016 12:46 AM)BigDickBandit420 Wrote:  I recommend 10 or 15MCG. 20 was good. 30 was my sweet spot that buffered 2 drops of A314 and one spray of IS x2. There were diminishing returns from 20 to 30, but worth it.

It created a dream like trance where everyone would want to get along. I would say it enhanced my natural charisma.

(05-09-2017 8:15 AM)heey85 Wrote:  Question!... AD offering P96 at the moment... has anyone tested if it is the same as what it was before...

(06-24-2017 3:39 PM)Scottie2Hottie Wrote:  I realize none of you know me unless you were on PheroTalk a decade ago and expect that you'll take my post with a grain of salt. I have no problem with that. I mainly come here to do research and educate myself. I'm just trying to share what little I know.