Beta TH-DOC
First of all, I’m taking no credit for the discovery or use of Beta TH -DOC. This Pheromone was first introduced to me in a thread on the Paradise 7 forum.

http://myforum.paradise7.org/user/Discus...?id=265178

The famous Snoopyace and Mrs. Robertson started a thread about the TH-DOC’s and Snoopyace commented on how much Beta TH-DOC reminded him of my beloved P-83. From my read of the thread, I am lefted with the suspicions that P-83 is Beta TH-DOC and Alpha TH-DOC is P-79.

First t test: 5-14-2011
Formula: 4 drops of A314, One spray Turn Up The Heat 2.5 mcg
Prepared 2.5 ml atomizer (two sprays total): 1:1 mix Instant Openness & Instant Honesty (both 2X)
Prepared 2.5 ml atomizer per spray (two sprays total): Androstadienone 17.6 mcg, Pregnenolone 80 mcg, Beta TH-DOC 12.8 mcg, Androstenetrione 53.333 mcg

Venue: Club, a mixture of women 32 to 65 years old, mostly cougars.

Cover Cologne: John Paul Gaultier – Eau De Colonge

This night I had no intention of going out. My girl called, told me she was in town and was parting with her sister. She convinced me to come down and party with then because she didn’t know when she would ever have a change to make it back this way again. Seems, her car was in a bad accident and the repairs mend an extensive stay in the body shop.
Long story short:
Get there my girl dancing with this guy, sister sitting at table alone. I sit down next to sister and she lights up like that Christmas tree at The Rockefeller square. Every compliment in the book, “you look different, you look good, you smell good”. I could get a word in and I loved every minute of it. My girl sits down on the other side of me; and planted a wet one on the lips.
So we’re dancing and I ask how long they’ve been there. She replied “about two hours my sister is not having much fun”, I smile and say “the night is not over yet”. We sit down and the sister is eyeing this guy. I look at her and say “half these guys in here are just as scary as you are, be the wolf”. She get up out of her chair, walks over and taps the guy on the shoulder and asked to dance and she is gone for twenty minutes. My girl with this amazed look on her face said “wowwwww! the last time my sister asked a guys to dance was in high school, what did you do to her ?” I replied with “just give her some facts “. This was the first clear cut indication to me that beta TH-Doc is acting like P-83.

My second clear cut indication was:
On the phone my girl made it very clear that she was out with her sister and she was going home with her sister. Any other time we got together she would come straight to my house and the rest of the family was none the wiser, if you catch my drift. Their also the matter of a fiancé in Cleveland, Ohio. Ok, we’re having fun the conversation is flowing and she looks me in my eyes and said “you’ll take me home tomorrow, right?”. I smile and reply with “haven’t let you down yet have I?”. And this I must say is the most blatant evident that Beta TH-DOC is in the P-83 camp. Of course it needs more testing but I’m very happy with the results so far.

Nice! Great report and very interesting findings!

I'm very interested to try a-th as well now that I hear it may be P79. That's one of the ones I wanted to try very much before I gave up on coded putatives.

I tried 15 mcg today. I was hoping for more touchy feelyness from the bf but honestly did not see any effects in that area. It seemed like the same as always. I wore it to a bunch of open houses. We looked at some houses that are way out of our price range and I'm not sure if we normally would have done that. I was more inclined to say what was on my mind without hesitating, but I really didn't see many other effects. I got this mainly for the touching effect, so I am sad that it didn't work for me. Maybe this needs to be paired with other pheromones to steer it in a particular direction, so I'll try that next time. I think this is in popularity potion, which seemed to work well for me (it doesn't specify whether it has alpha or beta TH-DOC though). I thought I was getting mainly the effects of the TH-DOC from that, but when I wear it by itself, it is not the same! So yea, maybe it needs to be paired with something.

Nice testing, fuzzcat! Repped!

One that you might try to increase kino from your man is Androstenetrione. That stuff makes me want to hold onto my girl for dear life!

Thanks dbot, I'll try androstenetrione on him!

Is B-THDOC P83? Is it a close sub?

(08-10-2011 5:15 AM)JAYCEE Wrote:  Is B-THDOC P83? Is it a close sub?

I would like to know too

One thing I’ve notice about P-83 and Beta THDOC. Not good for ignition on first contact of a target. The target might have eyes for another. P-83 / Beta THDOC will drop all barriers and you might be left out in the cold if that person (the target's desire) is in the Vicinity. Also be prepared for the naked truth. If that person like you or love you, they will show it. If they don’t

they won’t.

Not gospels just my observations

(10-04-2011 10:34 AM)kmacc45 Wrote:  One thing I’ve notice about P-83 and Beta THDOC. Not good for ignition on first contact of a target. The target might have eyes for another. P-83 / Beta THDOC will drop all barriers and you might be left out in the cold if that person (the target's desire) is in the Vicinity. Also be prepared for the naked truth. If that person like you or love you, they will show it. If they don’t

they won’t.

Not gospels just my observations

So iam kinda confused,p83 actually have those bad effects that kmacc says? I thougt it was an excellent all around product,plus does anybody else co-sign this theory that P-83 / Beta THDOC are very similar??

I wouldn't call them bad. I was trying to state that TH-DOC and P-83 (in some situation I'll been in) will liberate the target to make choices that they wouldn't make under other condition.

In other words: the target went after someone they had their eye on for a long time.