(06-13-2017 8:13 AM)Snoopyace Wrote:  It is incredible how the point a woman is in her cycle can change what pheromone would be appropriate to get the desired result. Pre ovulation up to ovulation and most women are much more tolerant/interested in a high androstenone signature. Post ovulation through the beginning of menses and most women (yes, in MY EXPERIENCE- I haven't researched any studies) are more interested in the traditionally social blends and those get some pretty sexual results that might not have happened pre ovulation.

Yes, this is true. I remember seeing one study (can't provide the link, just my recollection) where women were shown pictures with different faces of men pre-ovulation, close to ovulation, but not post (which best can be described as the end of the cycle which means the same as the beginning of the next cycle which logically follows that once again, the woman is far from ovulation). The results would tend to back up what Snoopyace has experienced.

More specifically, women in the study tended to prefer men with more youthful features during the cycle when they are still far away from ovulation. For example, the women tended to prefer a youthful Leonard DiCaprio-like face rather than a Sylvester Stallone-like face during the phases when they were still far away from ovulating. When asked why, the women simply stated that men with 'baby faces' tended to appear more honest, romantic and long term relationship material; stable, someone to count on. In contrast, the women said that Stallone-like/Schwarzenegger faces looked more likely to lie.

However, this phenomenon was reversed during the time close to ovulation. Women tended to prefer the Stallone-like faces rather than the DiCaprio-like faces. Also, it was noted that women also had the greatest tendency to cheat on their established, safe, stable partner with more masculine faces.

What can we infer from the faces with varying amounts of perceived masculinity?
It is presumed that the Stallone-like face suggest high androgens and thus, higher amounts of androstenone which is a byproduct of testosterone (androgen)....although this may not always be the case as the individual may have had high test level during the adolescent formative years, but test levels may have fallen off...FOR SOME INDIVIDUALS, GENERALLY NOT ALL as test levels in most healthy men remain high even after 40. In contrast, the DiCaprio faces suggest a lower testosterone level, hence lower androstenone (and most likely the other mones to varying levels).

What can all this suggest? Being far from ovulation, women may be more influenced by the social/sexual hybrids (as Snoop said) and perhaps some Androstadienone for comfort. Whereas as the woman gets closer to ovulation, a formula which stresses more sexuality could be the best bet ONLY UP TO THE ACTUAL POINT OF OVULATION AND SOME HOURS AFTER. Of course, if the egg is not fertilized...the woman will have her period...which means some comfort is necessary...which usually suggests Androstadienone (or a formula which stresses this) once again, since the cycle is about to restart ...and thus, the woman is far away from ovulation.

Just a thought.

Zero to 69 and Wanted Man both do not contain Androstadienone updating my last post. Now back to top 5. Zero to 69 is 75mcg per spray of Androstenone, but you can use a togo bottle to get about 37.5mcg per spray if you prefer, and I found this product to work as a sex booster and can be used when you want to ramp up sexually. It worked in combo with 2 6" lines Chamber 36, 3 dr Swoon, 2 6 inch Scent of Eros, 1-2 dr The Hookup so far, cohesion was next to try and should work fine. A second choice would be Primitive 13.33 dropper/18.75mcg per euro drops, and my third right now is NPATouch/concentrate but that also has Androstadienone as sexual additives. I can add it during the right part of womens cycles or wanting to try to get sexual.

I was also confused about the New Pheromone Additive differences so I did some research before buying myself and shared my findings in this linked thread below, read post 80 and 90 should answer your questions. If I have any more info like dosing of touch vs dabs or drops of concentrate after more testing of the touch and alcohol I'll post there.
NNPA Thread

Is there any other differences between the touch and alcohol concentrate other than an atomizer? (Lacroy answer)
>> none at all. The touch was created for this purpose. Originally when we made it people just took the NPAConcentrate as an additive and combined it with ones own cologne/perfume. The Touch was made having to avoid the hassle of mixing.

(06-13-2017 6:39 AM)avi Wrote:  @Paradox, I remember that RTBoss was wearing NPATouch with success. The NPATouch is scented New Pheromone Additive spray .

Touch is available scented or unscented from Lacroy and they now ship to USA direct, takes 10 days.The credit card converted my payment automatically, but I typed currency converter into google to see how much things cost in USA dollars before buying. I saw Love-Scent still has some limited stock left of the Lacroy unscented Touch, but not the scented one. It is the same. Touch is dosed by the atomizer which some may find easier then attempting to dab an alcohol concentrate or wanting to mix. The concentrate is also available as 5ml or 15ml and is intended to mix with your own cologne or dab/use a dropper.

New Pheromone Additive is a trademarked name and only sold by Love-Scent from what I get from the answers I posted. Lacroy sells different name versions. NPAConcentrate by Lacroy and New Pheromone Additive (Blue Bottle) from Love Scent are no longer the same. Maybe that is the reason for 'shadows New Pheromone Additive'. Love Scent version in blue bottle uses an oil base and a different supplier and some differences in ingredients I mention in that link so the versions have to be evaluated separately as to which ones are worth buying. Lacroy originally was the supplier of the ingredients so if you want their ingredient version you can buy direct from http://www.lacroy.com.