If I remember correctly, Turn Up The Heat was mostly straight androstenone with minute amounts of what they termed as steering pheromones. As for Woodland Man, it was a really nice green and slightly woodsy scent. I did get a lot of use out of the bottle I had. Got me laid more than once.

(03-10-2017 4:11 PM)Snoopyace Wrote:  If I remember correctly, Turn Up The Heat was mostly straight androstenone with minute amounts of what they termed as steering pheromones. As for Woodland Man, it was a really nice green and slightly woodsy scent. I did get a lot of use out of the bottle I had. Got me laid more than once.

Thanks heaps Snoopy.

Ive been testing a few things lately. And what I can say from what I can observe is that smells in themselves have a MASSIVE impact on how girls react. So far a few blends of essential oils made me think that. And the most consistent results I got outta all of'em is ;

Australian sandlewood, rosemary, rose geranium, lavender, patchouli, bergamot, jasmine and spearmint. All one to one ratios. Meaning all the same amount. Mixed in coconut oil to 1 to 4 ratio. Coconut oil being one and the mixture of the essential oils being 4. Not EXACTLY that amount but just roughly. So a quater of the blend has coconut oil if that makes sense.

This blend in itself is an EXTREMELY strong blend when it comes to the smell and the silage is fairly long and far. But the duration of the smell is somewhat shorter and by the 6th 7th hour the silage becomes shorter too. I'd really appreciate if Mara can opt in her opinion on this one.

But I admit that the smell is VERY rough around the edges. None the less the amount of hits am getting with this combination is just amazing. And this is WITHOUT any molecules in it . My idea is if any of the professionals can take this little experiment I've done and make a good professional blend with the molecules in Turn Up The Heat or any product for that matter, we can all benefit.

This project was a fun project I did just for shits and giggles. But the outcome is amazing. So I thought I'd share it on Paradox's thread. I know it's not related to the top 5 products. But the subject came up. So I thought I'd share it here. But if people can get the top 5 products and blend it with these essential oil smells and see consistent results, I thought 'eh why not?' Lol.

To the O.P.: Hey P, if ya rekon this is outta topic, (which it is) and ya want it outta ur thread, am happy to delete it. Thanks.

[QUOTE='DrChocolate' pid='198594' dateline='1489181915']

Thanks heaps Snoopy.

Ive been testing a few things lately. And what I can say from what I can observe is that smells in themselves have a MASSIVE impact on how girls react. So far a few blends of essential oils made me think that. And the most consistent results I got outta all of'em is ;

Australian sandlewood, rosemary, rose geranium, lavender, patchouli, bergamot, jasmine and spearmint. All one to one ratios. Meaning all the same amount. Mixed in coconut oil to 1 to 4 ratio. Coconut oil being one and the mixture of the essential oils being 4. Not EXACTLY that amount but just roughly. So a quater of the blend has coconut oil if that makes sense.

Hi Doc:

Thanks for the informative post.
Im no essential oil expert so im curious... It seems like alot of essential oil to base oil( coconut oil) ratio. Are you using already diluted essential oils or pure strength oils? I just want to make sure im using safe ratios and defer to your expertise.

(03-10-2017 8:36 PM)Crazy Bear Wrote:  [QUOTE='DrChocolate' pid='198594' dateline='1489181915']



Hi Doc:

Thanks for the informative post.
Im no essential oil expert so im curious... It seems like alot of essential oil to base oil( coconut oil) ratio. Are you using already diluted essential oils or pure strength oils? I just want to make sure im using safe ratios and defer to your expertise.

Sorry. I should've clarified. Am not an expert either. Just an enthusiast really. It was only a crazy experiment. Mara from LPMP on the other hand knows what she's talking about. There's a lot of posts from her on this forum.

The 1/4 of coconut oil was to dilute the full strength essential oils. hope this helps.

(03-10-2017 4:38 PM)DrChocolate Wrote:  To the O.P.: Hey P, if ya rekon this is outta topic, (which it is) and ya want it outta ur thread, am happy to delete it. Thanks.

Just to make it clear, I created this thread to help the community make informed decisions about pheromone products.

This entire thread is for you the pheromone user.

My suggestion is to ask LPMP to make a small batch of Woodland (with no pheromones). You can purchase Turn up the Heat from Androtics. You can also go to the trader section of pherotalk or pherotruth to see if someone wants to sell their Turn Up The Heat cheaply. And then you are good to go.

(03-10-2017 9:26 PM)Paradox Wrote:  Just to make it clear, I created this thread to help the community make informed decisions about pheromone products.

This entire thread is for you the pheromone user.

My suggestion is to ask LPMP to make a small batch of Woodland (with no pheromones). You can purchase Turn up the Heat from Androtics. You can also go to the trader section of pherotalk or pherotruth to see if someone wants to sell their Turn Up The Heat cheaply. And then you are good to go.

Except the only thing is Turn Up The Heat now is different than Turn Up The Heat back then. Turn Up The Heat back then is similar to AM or HT now. Just me 2 cents.

(03-10-2017 10:37 PM)DrChocolate Wrote:  Except the only thing is Turn Up The Heat now is different than Turn Up The Heat back then. Turn Up The Heat back then is similar to AM or HT now. Just me 2 cents.

My 2 cents- Go with Zero to 69 from Pheromone Treasures. It works in a similar fashion to the old Turn Up the Heat. In my opinion it works equally well if not better.

(03-10-2017 10:42 PM)Snoopyace Wrote:  My 2 cents- Go with Zero to 69 from Pheromone Treasures. It works in a similar fashion to the old Turn Up the Heat. In my opinion it works equally well if not better.

True? For me zero to 69 is very similar to New Pheromone Additive Old version. And Dionysos from Apex ( currently sold).

Another good example how different products work in different ways to different people.

(03-10-2017 10:37 PM)DrChocolate Wrote:  Except the only thing is Turn Up The Heat now is different than Turn Up The Heat back then. Turn Up The Heat back then is similar to AM or HT now. Just me 2 cents.

Wow! this happened a few years before my time.

I've always said that Turn Up The Heat didn't work for me. Looks like Michael Harris tinkered with the formula sometime early on to "soften it".

Maybe he had Androstenone, Alpha Androstenol and Androstadienone . He maybe swapped out the Androstadienone for something else when Androtics stopped using Androstadienone . I dunno.

Anyway a good first start would be to get Woodland without pheromones made again.

(03-10-2017 10:37 PM)DrChocolate Wrote:  Except the only thing is Turn Up The Heat now is different than Turn Up The Heat back then. Turn Up The Heat back then is similar to AM or HT now. Just me 2 cents.

This is the problem. For whatever reason, current TUH is less efficacious and potent than previous TUH blends. I emailed Mara about re-creating Woodland and she said that it wasn't possible but that Excalibur with Tuh would be similiar. I predict many of there phero-scented combos may have a similarly amazing effect. Not sure which other scented blends were created for them by Andrrotics as most are CShroud blends.