For a long time, it's seemed to me like the effects of mones are not due to the VNO or nerve zero as typically claimed, but to a direct connection between the olfactory system and the brain. While I'd been told repeatedly that such a connection could not exist, a recent discovery demonstrates that such a connection may, in fact, exist. The connection is more interesting to medical researchers because of the newly discovered link between the brain and the immune system, but the link to the olfactory system is more relevant to my interests.

At one time, traditional treatments such as reflexology and acupuncture were poo-pooed because "you cannot heal (insert body part) by actuating a toe."

Scientists didn't understand (and many still refuse to accept) the meridian lines of the body. Everything is connected to everything else.

I wouldn't be surprised if a direct connection between the VNO and heart is discovered.

Interestingly enough, i wouldn't be surprised if there was some kind of connection between the mind and the dispersion of mones. To me it seems that when people fall in love without the use of synthetic mones, its a natutal things, fall out is created and they can't stop being around each other. Then again some people keep that up and stay with each other for centuries it seems, while others only seem to be tpgether for months before it ends abruptly. I have reason to believe there is a connection between people's genes and environment, between mindful intent and mone dispersion. I believe that based on our attitudes and how we perceive our reality, our mind tells our bodies what mones to throw out, and our body manufacturs what it can and executes the command. I could be wrong, but it may have something to do with the hypothalamus and how it processes information, our mind and the seat of our soul said to be in the Pineal gland which resides by the hypothalamus, the region of the third eye, which if the case would somewhat explain how pheromones can still work without the VNO. If chemosensory reception can work by scents without the VNO there has to be another direct way, and maybe the meridians lines of the body have something to do with it.

(06-13-2015 5:51 PM)kimosabe Wrote:  At one time, traditional treatments such as reflexology and acupuncture were poo-pooed because "you cannot heal (insert body part) by actuating a toe."

Scientists didn't understand (and many still refuse to accept) the meridian lines of the body. Everything is connected to everything else.

I wouldn't be surprised if a direct connection between the VNO and heart is discovered.

There is a bunch of empirical evidence coming out that acupuncture does in fact work. Ive only done it once but I could feel the energy move though my body in some places. I'll buy into it for sure!

(06-13-2015 6:39 PM)pherosloth Wrote:  Interestingly enough, i wouldn't be surprised if there was some kind of connection between the mind and the dispersion of mones...

To piggy back on what I said above and what you said....

Im getting weird, man. Or at least weird by my old self a few years ago. I 100% agree with your statement. I'm finding that there is a crazy connection with the mind, body, and spirit. In fact, all is connected in some fashion. If one was to obtain complete control over their person they wouldn't need 'mones. They would just tell the body to produce what they want. The hard part is not excepting that these are real things...but rather having the discipline to work hard for years to obtain them. Nothing seems to come easy... thats why we buy the scientist's concoction in these little bottles. ;)

Well i agree with you there, but i think we normally produce them as we wish when our intentions are set, meaning if we are really wishing to get a girl to be with us, our bpdy will churn out more Androstadienone , and if we want to be social with them, than the nols come out and if they buy into them, the bacteria responsible for changing them to Androstenone let her know you may want more. If she is in her fertile stage of her menstrual cycle, the Androstenone will hit her just right, other than this period in time the likely response will something like lets be freinds, or you're not my type. Lets be freinds, to me sounds like something that shows interest so she doesn't want to toss you out, but she still wants to keep you for later, and may signify the Luteal phase of her cycle where she is looking for a father or authoritarian figure, someone trustworthy and dependable, where you're not my type may signify she is on her rag and is not really looking for sexual hits like Androstenone tends to put out. Idk maybe I'm wrong but I've noticed that since there is a mone schedule that can be used to attract women at any point of the cycle, there must be some kind of way to control our output through intent and proper diet/exercise.

(06-17-2015 4:42 PM)pherosloth Wrote:  there must be some kind of way to control our output through intent

This is more what I meant. The people I was referring to would be shamans or monks...etc. These types of humans have an uncanny grasp of the mind and its ability to make it do what is intended.

(06-17-2015 4:42 PM)pherosloth Wrote:  and proper diet/exercise.

A well oiled machine will always function better. Also, its my belief that the endocrine system is delicate and a poor diet, lifestyle, and environmental factors just wreck havoc on it.

(06-17-2015 7:17 PM)SuperJoy Wrote:  This is more what I meant. The people I was referring to would be shamans or monks...etc. These types of humans have an uncanny grasp of the mind and its ability to make it do what is intended.

(06-17-2015 4:42 PM)pherosloth Wrote:  and proper diet/exercise.

A well oiled machine will always function better. Also, its my belief that the endocrine system is delicate and a poor diet, lifestyle, and environmental factors just wreck havoc on it.

Monks are no different than we, it is just that they have been born in an area where they can do such customs without as much worry like what we pile onto ourselves in our respective countries. Shamans have a deeper connection to the earth and to others as do monks, however, all it takes is discipline and training, and one can even self train themselves enough to tap into this energy that we all share. I have done so and i have unlocked the ability to see auras, and to hear some of people's thoughts. I feel their energy and i get a sense of them without even having to say or ask much. Of course the powers of observation i have are at peak levels as well so i can draw much by just watcjing them or talking to them within the first 5 minutes or so. The chance is there, it's just we let all these other things could our minds, our judgements, and our emotions, and this added stress does nothing but poison the mind and body.

(06-17-2015 9:45 PM)pherosloth Wrote:  Monks are no different than we, it is just that they have been born in an area where they can do such customs without as much worry like what we pile onto ourselves in our respective countries. Shamans have a deeper connection to the earth and to others as do monks, however, all it takes is discipline and training, and one can even self train themselves enough to tap into this energy that we all share. I have done so and i have unlocked the ability to see auras, and to hear some of people's thoughts. I feel their energy and i get a sense of them without even having to say or ask much. Of course the powers of observation i have are at peak levels as well so i can draw much by just watcjing them or talking to them within the first 5 minutes or so. The chance is there, it's just we let all these other things could our minds, our judgements, and our emotions, and this added stress does nothing but poison the mind and body.

Agreed. What practices did you do? I have been meditating for the last year or so. Im not getting far. Im currently listening to a sub for astral projecting...about a week now. I think its working, kinda. Im finding myself having more lucid dreams but something is stopping me from full blown projections.

(06-20-2015 9:00 AM)SuperJoy Wrote:  Agreed. What practices did you do? I have been meditating for the last year or so. Im not getting far. Im currently listening to a sub for astral projecting...about a week now. I think its working, kinda. Im finding myself having more lucid dreams but something is stopping me from full blown projections.

Are you blowing your load everyday? That could be an issue. Monks are taught celibacy because of the energy and nutrients expended through each ejaculation. Monks are taught to reserve both the energy content and their nutrients so that it is used during physical activity (nutrients), intellect (lecithin), and meditation (energy) components of our existence. There is a method to their madness so to speak lol.