So I see a lot of people mention depression when discussing Androstadienone , personally I haven't had a chance to use Androstadienone except what is claimed to be in my zest body wash. I really want to try Androstadienone for its effects on women but I'm concerned about the depression. Can anyone tell me if it hits, how long roughly does it last and am I just going to want to be alone for a while or am I going to want to slit my throat because if I'm just going to want to be to myself for a day or two in my room I think I can deal with it lol as I just got a Wii u but if it makes you want to harm yourself I don't want to mess with it

I never get outright depression myself and use Androstadienone everyday. A314/X22 oil mix for work. X22 contains Androstadienone .

I did have a date over one evening and had about 150 mcg Androstadienone added to some attraction mix.

It made me jumpy as hell. Date asked " Do I make you nervous" I "No, do I make you nervous?

I was agitated from the Androstadienone but she was nicely relaxed.

Had to try it in the name of testing, and spillage.

If I wear too much none I get moody and can be agitated and feel negative.

Androstadienone on your skin, with heat sweat and bacteria will eventually convert into none so having too much combined with a heavy sexual mix will sometimes burn me out.

Some people really get some deep depressions that can last for days after Androstadienone use.

I always prefer to use Androstadienone based in oil like Dianne's or GOA or X22. Oils just have a more even power curve .

but its not final if u use Androstadienone daily u may notice a decrease of libido and sometimes no mood for sex.. generally Sex Drive will get into lower rate... i recommend using Androstadienone not daily.

i don't get Androstadienone depression either, but i cant sleep when Androstadienone on me, i tried many times to sleep when i applied Androstadienone before but i felt insecure and i woke up like 6 times during night. now when ever i have Androstadienone on me i take shower before sleep

Edit: Yay 69 Posts Magic Number

I always shower before I sleep. Scrub down really well.

P83 will keep me up just like you described. I haven't noticed a decrease in sex drive but daily use may have desensitized me to Androstadienone negative effects.

Sounds like some mild depression if lowered sex drive and feelings of insecurity. How many mcg's

Thing about X22 oil is that there is no telling how much Androstadienone .

Probably less than 15 mcg pd so mild enough.

I recall just over 100 mcg of mones per drop and X22 contains AndrostEnone, Alpha Androstenol, Androsterone, epiandrosterone, Androstadienone, AndrostAnone,Estratetraenol.

issue start when i use over 25mcg, lower than this i sleep like babe, but usually i need to see blatant hits to act quickly lol so that's why i use most of time over 50mcg of Androstadienone

I'm thinking that Androstadienone works best in small doses these days and the oils release it slower.
Probably why GOA works better for people at just a drop.

Men's bodies produce some Androstadienone naturally, why,? I don't know how much or under which circumstances so I think guys could tolerate small amounts and the females would be genetically pre-programmed to pic up minuscule amounts.

Hax C4 oil contains Androstadienone . Yes C4. And it projects like all HAX oils. Two drops will annoy guys in your cloud and that could be a massive Androstadienone hit. Contains just 4 mones and pretty whimpy ones so Androstadienone could be the culprit. Of course venders don't disclose all their adds but back in the day hax disclosed (or put in print anyways) all content and products like M512 contained practically every regular mone. They just listed 4 for C4 though.
But I digress.

Could also be slightly differing chemical makeup of the Androstadienone out there.

Some of the females in my family (and other women in my life) can't stand the smell of cohesion. Hits them like a board and they complain to me. I can't smell anything but nice. Other females in my family aren't bothered either. Seems that some are genetically predisposed to be repulsed by that chemical of Androstadienone . Same one as used by love scent I bet cause those two are the only ones I get those kinds of reactions. It's rude to comment on someone's cologne since it's there personal choice but what they smelled repelled them and caused them to exceed there verbal abuse control.

Cohesion is a great product but there are different hybrids of Androstadienone out there. If that's the case then there may be differing levels/types of negative effects some males feel. I have read the most negatives about Alpha Dreams Androstadienone .

L2k and AM are fantastic products but give people problems. I say let them add their own.
However, could it be that without the Androstadienone , L2K would just be licence for mediocre?

This has to be one of the most posted on molecules either directly or indirectly. A key ingredient in many fantastic female comfort escalators. I see it also as insurance for over alpha/sexing a mix on yourself. Just add some of that comfort bonding juice if you have overdone the male mones and you will be good for awhile. Won't be helping the guys any though.

Still more testing to be done though and I never get tired of learning more about this one.

(06-05-2015 10:07 PM)Fishdude Wrote:  I never get outright depression myself and use Androstadienone everyday. A314/X22 oil mix for work. X22 contains Androstadienone .

I did have a date over one evening and had about 150 mcg Androstadienone added to some attraction mix.

It made me jumpy as hell. Date asked " Do I make you nervous" I "No, do I make you nervous?

I was agitated from the Androstadienone but she was nicely relaxed.

Had to try it in the name of testing, and spillage.

If I wear too much none I get moody and can be agitated and feel negative.

Androstadienone on your skin, with heat sweat and bacteria will eventually convert into none so having too much combined with a heavy sexual mix will sometimes burn me out.

Some people really get some deep depressions that can last for days after Androstadienone use.

I always prefer to use Androstadienone based in oil like Dianne's or GOA or X22. Oils just have a more even power curve .

How many drops of X22 do you normally wear? What kind of hits do you get from it?
I tried it several times. I always get drepressions from it and it didnt affect others.

Cheers

Thanks for all that info Fishdude.
My sisters also complains about cohesion smell when I wore it around her.

As for depression I don't think I get it even though I have felt very down and shitty after wearing mones (not containing dienone), sweating and not removing them.
Also I wore up to 150mg from a 5ml spray bottle of dienone that I got from a member of this forum and did not get any effects bad or good.

M.

Thanks guys I was thinking of picking up either crushxs or Androstadienone is why I'm asking now to decide between the two lol

(06-06-2015 12:04 AM)Cscs Wrote:  How many drops of X22 do you normally wear? What kind of hits do you get from it?
I tried it several times. I always get drepressions from it and it didnt affect others.

Cheers

Why is it when users experience negative effects from mones, they never seem to report on this? Not specifically talking about you Cscs, just a general statement. This is the first time I'm hearing of depression from X22. I suppose that just leaves Ladykiller for me.