Thanks AS3, where is a good place to get the Androstadienone?

Lovescent, True Pheromones, Alpha Dream, and Liquid Alchemy Labs all sell quality Androstadienone.
I'd go with Chris from Alpha Dream as I think he has the best price for quality mones.

(01-07-2012 1:40 PM)Gslinger Wrote:  .... I don't know if talking about all that is good though or from what angle. I think I'm at risk of causing self detriment and friend zoning myself (guys, any opinions on this one?)

It seems that the amount of sprays of TL actually affect whether an alpha or beta aura is given out given a constant main body of 2-3 sprays of AM.

I could not help but comment on your sentence. In my limited test runs of AM + TL any less than 1:1ratio of AM:TL (spray version) results in a beta aura unless you add another alpha mix. In a test run using 1s AM + 3s TL, I had a lady push me in the back when I tried to game her friend. In my few years of using pheromones, I have never had that happen to me with any mix. Please be aware of the beta aura of TL.

(01-09-2013 8:07 PM)thebigQ Wrote:  I could not help but comment on your sentence. In my limited test runs of AM + TL any less than 1:1ratio of AM:TL (spray version) results in a beta aura unless you add another alpha mix. In a test run using 1s AM + 3s TL, I had a lady push me in the back when I tried to game her friend. In my few years of using pheromones, I have never had that happen to me with any mix. Please be aware of the beta aura of TL.

Had this happen once too, I have a stock of TL but I don't wear it very often.

I don't wear TL very much anymore. It worked a lot more effectively in social circle environments such as college. In fact, college parties is where this works wonders.

Normal clubbing in larger cities requires a different mix. I wouldn't wear True Love in a random person environment. Side note, I wore true love and AM as my staple when I first moved to Boston. This one girl I saw then I haven't seen in a while. We went to an alumni event and she looked at me and said, "You're the goofy Okyoureabeast!". I was wearing AV, Hypnotica, and MX421 (TAA variant) she was running her mouth the entire night.

We'll try again tonight. I finally got my Cohesion to play with.

If anything, i betcha True Love would be the most effective in high school. Imagining wearing that as a senior then. You'd be tapping the popular girls in no time.

Enjoyed reading this post I ordered this last night because I'm going on a cruise with z bunch of people and want to test during nightlife. I hope I get it b4 I leave as I'm curious to test in the bars/clubs on a controlled environment. I have tried different Pheromones mostly hits from younger gals but want to see how this works since both products are highly recommended. I'm going to monitor effects will post when u come back. This seems like a very knowledgeable forum hope to learn from you all and share to the collective if knowledge.


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Im interested in learning more about Gslingers theory about dheas can elling out effects of "falling in love" or negative emotions... would this mean that adding dheas in a mix containing "true love" (which can be "crush like") would negate that effect?

(01-14-2013 8:04 AM)phertest Wrote:  Im interested in learning more about Gslingers theory about dheas can elling out effects of "falling in love" or negative emotions... would this mean that adding dheas in a mix containing "true love" (which can be "crush like") would negate that effect?

Potentially but at wearing 5-6 sprays of the stuff you'll need a TON of DHEA to compensate.

You'll be giving off on hell of a weird signature.

(01-10-2012 9:16 PM)Alpha Dream Wrote:  Hi 2soon.. When we get the methoxy-estratetraenol in stock (probably by mid summer), I will prepare samples of Alfa Maschio “B” for at least 10 testers, with the addition of this compound… Free of charge so long as at least half the test group reports on it.. Version “B” will be in silicone like the others…

Methoxy-estratetraenol will also go on sale at such time, like the rest of the pheromone ingredients.. Pure compound, bulk concentrate, dropper type and spray type. The prices will be good.

Hi Chris,


Just wanted to check in on this - I'd be happy to test Alfa Maschio rev. "B" and provide reports.

I'm not sure how many are in the DHEA or DHEAS family, but I can speak safely for DHEA since I had the luxury of experimenting with it, courtesy of mengster who made a decent sized batch before he went off the grid.

DHEA will chill you out. In high doses it'll zone you, it'll make you stoned. Fun fact of the day: One of the ways to tell if DHEA kicks in is that for some, it has a side effect which some of you might be familiar with, a slight loss of a sense of smell. Sound familiar?

There are certain mones that can chill you, space you out.

For AM + TL I wouldn't recommend adding or upping the DHEA/(S). I'd recommend upping the none and or Androstanone. You need an Alpha boost. The only way out of a dweeby emotional episode while in the field is to be Alpha, to feel Alpha, to be in control and that you can do something about it, so you can up your game and play it with confidence.

DHEA is for AFTER you're done with the night. If you didn't score and you're feeling shitty and screwed from the side effects so you stone out with DHEA.

I'd say for the chill/knock/zone out department, despite having a bad rep here, Androtics is still the front running company in this area, my guess is that many of you guys haven't played around with their putative and mx range a lot. If you're in the mood for self discovery, self effects especially go order single molecules from different vendors, buy putatives, go and experiment and feel the results instead of reading a second opinion and following blindly. Many companies carry great and awesome products, everyone's looking for that one magic bullet, one product to rule them all, but this is akin to different trading styles in the stock market. Different trading strategies suit different personalities, suit different market cycles. Its basically timing, the people you meet, your body chemistry and personality. Every strategy works, just like how every product works, if not no one would be using them.

And keep in mind, every additional pheromone/steroid/hormone you add to your signature changes something and just makes things more complicated and complex. You need to figure out which does what so you can nail down how the cocktail works

For some reason I kinda don't like messing too much with using one product to continually buffer or offset the after effects of another product

I akin it to something like taking a huge dose of caffeine or a eugeroic drug in the morning and then going with something like alcohol or a sedative at night because you took a stimulant earlier in the day and you need to go to sleep, and then the next morning you have to stimulate yourself again because of the knock out from the night before

It feels like an abuse cycle

But yeah, explore and have fun.

Some good grounding chill out products you might wanna check out are DHEA(stone out), DHEAS, Wolf (chill/grounding), Nude (grounding), MX297(chill), P91(chill and space out in high doses), P94 (similar to DHEAS according to another forum admin), P130 (probably DHEA), MX412/413 (because P130 is an important component of it)

I hope Androtics doesn't get pissed at me for saying this stuff or find me 'giving away anything here' because I really like p130, 412/413, 91 and 297 and I'm definitely going to remain a repeat customer. In fact I write this in hopes that you guys will buy those items, and then buy single molecules and then start on your own personal journey to know what it feels like with each different molecule/product. You guys will probably find product summaries over there describing p130, 412/413, 91 and more over there. I see that there is already a P130 discussion going on somewhere in this forum. And for those over there who are reading this, no, P130 isn't Alpha Androstenol. They're completely different. Alpha Androstenol makes you high and burns you out at the end, useful for falling asleep at burn out dosages

Ok, I've said a lot of stuff, if you forget everything, this is the take away

1) Know what the self effects are for the products that you use. This affects and changes your game.
2) Know how your cloud affects those around you but keep in mind that your behaviour is equally important. I cannot stress how important congruence is, something which many have forgotten. You can have the most alpha signature around, but if you go wimpy or show signs of immense insecurity for whatever shit reason, people are definitely going to pick up on that, and you can't blame a product that it didn't work for you.
3) You can use one product to boost or offset the effects of another. But sometimes if you actually know what specifically to use, it could be more efficient, cost efficient especially. If you don't already have a big budget to start out with, try looking in the homebrew section

(01-14-2013 8:04 AM)phertest Wrote:  Im interested in learning more about Gslingers theory about dheas can elling out effects of "falling in love" or negative emotions... would this mean that adding dheas in a mix containing "true love" (which can be "crush like") would negate that effect?