I'm looking for a comparison from people that have used both recently.I suppose Ascend is more serious and AT is flowing more naturaly, perhaps with broad effects, not strictly status.Opinions?

(04-30-2018 6:56 AM)stefdude Wrote:  I'm looking for a comparison from people that have used both recently.I suppose Ascend is more serious and AT is flowing more naturaly, perhaps with broad effects, not strictly status.Opinions?

From my experience, I think you have a good general comparison of both. Ascend to me (I had the copulin version) was more like A314 with a bit more of a sexual side. Not attractive or sexual in its own right so much as that it attracts women who are attracted to power. Definitely gives a sense of RESPECT. Ascend reminds me a bit more of Titan from Apex than Alpha Treasures. Titan definitely has a bit more of a sexual side than Ascend for me, however.

Having said that, I personally prefer Alpha Treasures because it provides status like Ascend does but it is much more of a, 'Let's work together' vibe where you are just so awesome that people WANT to follow your lead as opposed to feeling like they are supposed to follow you. I also find that wearing Alpha Treasures when 'off the clock,' I still get the respect but I also feel that I'm more approachable and women in particular find me to be attractive AND a VIP not just a high status guy. Just my .02 cents.

Thanks for the input Snoopy, you are one of the few that has a grasp on both.

Anyone else use Both?

I have used both. I've used Alpha Treasures more than Ascend so I can speak to more detail with AT.

I have gone light to very heavy on AT, as much as eight drops on AT, but I combo'ed it with 4 drops of GOA that day. On that particular day, I had a strong alpha male coworker become buddy buddy to me, like frat buddy type is the best way I can explain it. It also intimidated a manager to the point that he left a meeting early that I was in. From my experience with female coworkers, one felt the need to explain every little detail she was doing for a forecast report. She also made time for me despite being under a deadline for that report. Not the, "I can give you five minutes." More like, "Whatever time you need I'm available" type of response.

Im thinking about getting ascend again, but I'm becoming more curious about alpha treasures with the more reading I do. Ive never used alpha treasures before

i feel like a lot of XS products are made easier for combos whereas the treasure products are more standalone friendly.

My memory is vague but the few times I used Ascend(cop'd), it did feel more serious than AT.