(07-24-2011 2:38 AM)txi0m Wrote:  Some products (like True Alpha) have extra pheromones that are not revealed... But it could be the case that the two "missing" pheromones of the six in TA are really just beta NOL and beta Androsterone. Whatever the case, if it is a commonly known one (NONE, NOL, Androsterone, Androstadienone , Couplins, Oxytocin), it will be mentioned.

What leads you to think there are extra, unlisted mones in TA?

(07-26-2011 3:16 PM)dbot Wrote:  What leads you to think there are extra, unlisted mones in TA?

They simply fail to specify if they're counting the alpha/beta types as separate. I think the chances that they DO count it as separate is more probable, but I've seen a few people consider Alpha Androstenol and Beta Androstenol as the same (similar, but slightly different social effects).

Perhaps I should revise that section a little.

Thanks for the reply and tips.. I am 21, male, looking to attract girls roughly my own age. I've tried 1 second sprays of TI but didn't notice anything different. I've even tried 4 second sprays but nothing still. Also I have even went from 1 spray of TR all the way up to five, but nothing out the ordinary, I did notice at four sprays people were sought of a little more chatty. I will keep testing and if you have any products to recommend or any more tips or certain ways to apply that help you best would greatly appreciated.

(07-27-2011 2:21 AM)Cuddle Monster Wrote:  Thanks for the reply and tips.. I am 21, male, looking to attract girls roughly my own age. I've tried 1 second sprays of TI but didn't notice anything different. I've even tried 4 second sprays but nothing still. Also I have even went from 1 spray of TR all the way up to five, but nothing out the ordinary, I did notice at four sprays people were sought of a little more chatty. I will keep testing and if you have any products to recommend or any more tips or certain ways to apply that help you best would greatly appreciated.

No problem man! I'm very close in age, actually. I managed to catch someone almost 2 years younger than me four months ago.

On a scale of 1 to 10, how would you rate your social ability? Assume 1 is "When I talk, people leave", 5 is "I'm neither good nor bad", and 10 is "I enter, people gather around".

My highest suspicion is True Instinct is less potent in spray form, but your social skills also have a lot to do with it. Think of pheromones like car wax... Better condition your car is in, the better the wax will perform!

Three years ago I probably would have been a 5. It took an abusive girlfriend and a closer look into the Pickup Artist (PUA) community to set me on the right track. At this point i'd consider myself a 7.5-8. I'm good, but the only people that gather around are the people I've built rapport with (which hasn't been very tricky to build).

I'll try and see how True Instinct spray works for me, but I won't have a good opportunity to test it for a few days. In the meantime, try taking a look at the Fast Seduction forum, and check out the Mystery Method.

Mystery (creator of the Mystery Method) also had a show on VH1 called The Pickup Artist. That show has heaps of awesome information to soak in-- it'll be the fastest way to pick it up. Neil Strauss also wrote a book called "The Game". Actually, that book was what got me into PUA, and Neil is an awesome storyteller. Full of good information too.

If you have any questions about PUA, just shoot me a PM and I'll do my best to answer them.

(07-26-2011 3:16 PM)dbot Wrote:  What leads you to think there are extra, unlisted mones in TA?

I'm going to have to change my answer to this one, as I stand corrected... by myself!

I was trying to think of a good mix for today (Glace + TI... but no Androsterone...), so I started thinking "Hm.. I wish there was a product I had that only had Androsterone..". I checked the technical tab for True Charisma and True Radiance, and look what I found on True Radiance's technical tab!

Quote:TRUE Alpha (oil based slow release w/ nine pheromones)

Nine, huh? So maybe that's where I initially got that suspicion. TA's product page implies there's six. Pretty misleading!