I've reading a little about Androstadienone and trying to work out if it's in any of the products I already have.

I mention AV because the description says:
"Your presence can actually lift women’s moods and alleviate depression making them want to be around you."

And the Androstadienone description on LA says:
Multiple studies have shown this mood elevating reaction. It has also been said that it eases the symptoms of PMS as well as headaches in women.

So it seems to me both these products have the ability to improve grumpy moods, having a similar effect regardless of ingredients.
My question being if I have AV couldn't I just wear that without really needing to buy Androstadienone as AV has the same effects?

Well, your AV is going to contain a number of other molecules as well, and I believe the most predmininant one is Androstenone, which can actually make women bitchy.

So, the short answer to you question is that it's possible and likely that AV contains some Androstadienone, it is likely to have a very different effect than what you'll see with AV.

I´m not sure if Aqua Vitae is the best choice for PMS ´ing women ..

Are you only want to fight general grumpy moods in women or are you looking for something to counteract the loveliness women radiate PMS ´ing

if this should be the case .. really good info on Androstadienone here ...

http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pherom...40630.html


hope this helps

You can get it from Garry Nelson or from LoveScent or from Love Potions ..

Pago

Garry doesn't put Androstadienone in his scented products. He sells unscented Androstadienone oil that you can mix yourself.

No Androstadienone in AV.

If you are in the US and you want a cheap Androstadienone product, go to Walmart and buy Dial Magnetic shower gel in the red bottle. It's under $4 and it contains Androstadienone .

(12-16-2010 8:16 PM)Pheroman Wrote:  I've reading a little about Androstadienone and trying to work out if it's in any of the products I already have.

I mention AV because the description says:
"Your presence can actually lift women’s moods and alleviate depression making them want to be around you."

And the Androstadienone description on LA says:
Multiple studies have shown this mood elevating reaction. It has also been said that it eases the symptoms of PMS as well as headaches in women.

So it seems to me both these products have the ability to improve grumpy moods, having a similar effect regardless of ingredients.
My question being if I have AV couldn't I just wear that without really needing to buy Androstadienone as AV has the same effects?

Hi Jaycee.
Garry's site only says he does not put it in Nude alpha.
Nowhere do see any list of ingredients for AV or Posses.
So how do you know, has he stated this?

I still ask myself:
If I can improve a women's mood with AV, why would I need to buy Androstadienone?
It works differently?
But if they both "lift women’s moods and alleviate depression", then why would i care how and why?
And if I'm going to mix it with others, why not just use AV?

And while I appreciate that link, i dont place much trust in vendor links in this type of industry.
The only way to test it is to use it unmixed and compare, and it doesn't seem many have.

I was going by the NA description. Maybe he puts it in other blends.

Does AV improve the moods of all women, or just one in particular?

I've never got the A-1 vibe from AV, but I'm not good at recognizing hits based on mix components.

A-1 is expensive, if you don't need it, don't buy it.

(12-24-2010 8:42 PM)Pheroman Wrote:  Hi Jaycee.
Garry's site only says he does not put it in Nude alpha.
Nowhere do see any list of ingredients for AV or Posses.
So how do you know, has he stated this?

I still ask myself:
If I can improve a women's mood with AV, why would I need to buy Androstadienone?
It works differently?
But if they both "lift women’s moods and alleviate depression", then why would i care how and why?
And if I'm going to mix it with others, why not just use AV?

And while I appreciate that link, i dont place much trust in vendor links in this type of industry.
The only way to test it is to use it unmixed and compare, and it doesn't seem many have.

OK, can you please explain (or post a link) what you mean by the "A-1 vibe", and how different it is to AV for you?
Thanks

Maybe this explains the AV claim

" androstenol, which has been linked through human studies to positive changes in women's hormones and in women's mood. "
http://scentoferos.com/About%20the%20products.html

(12-25-2010 8:47 AM)Pheroman Wrote:  OK, can you please explain (or post a link) what you mean by the "A-1 vibe", and how different it is to AV for you?
Thanks

Maybe this explains the AV claim

" androstenol, which has been linked through human studies to positive changes in women's hormones and in women's mood. "
http://scentoferos.com/About%20the%20products.html

AV is like a Alpha 7 + A314, extreme dominant... I also see no Androstadienone in there... Maybe a tiny amount of Estratetraenol, the looks from males are blatant with AV... I have much more attraction/respect hits from males with AV. AV is nothing for younger women... Only older ones...

Androstadienone is calming, relaxing, sexy and a space reducer. Great with none...

(12-25-2010 8:32 PM)JohnnyHard Wrote:  AV is like a Alpha 7 + A314, extreme dominant... I also see no Androstadienone in there... Maybe a tiny amount of Estratetraenol, the looks from males are blatant with AV... I have much more attraction/respect hits from males with AV. AV is nothing for younger women... Only older ones...

Androstadienone is calming, relaxing, sexy and a space reducer. Great with none...

So do you like AV?