Hey all, I just recieved my first pheromone order from LAL, and I got myself a 10mg bottle of 2mg androsterone (along with Beta Androstenol, and androstenedione), and was just wondering about the dosage on this one. I initially tried about 4 drops (16 mcg pheromone?) solo, and haven't really seen any significant social effects. Any advice about this molecule would be greatly appreciated.

Just wondering. Lal has some great mixes, why would you purchase individual components and not have an idea how to use them?

(07-06-2013 10:52 AM)zsdvnm Wrote:  Hey all, I just recieved my first pheromone order from LAL, and I got myself a 10mg bottle of 2mg androsterone (along with Beta Androstenol, and androstenedione), and was just wondering about the dosage on this one. I initially tried about 4 drops (16 mcg pheromone?) solo, and haven't really seen any significant social effects. Any advice about this molecule would be greatly appreciated.

Androsterone is pretty awful on its own, what your essentially doing is giving off a very mature, boring, fartherly vibe. If your looking to create status your going to have to add several different molecules, such as Androstanone, Beta Androstenol, epi-Androsterone, Androstenone, Atrione ratios are going to be up to you to test and find out.

First of all I think 16 mcg is a whole hell of a lot of Androsterone. I wouldn't expect social effects from it, in fact I'd expect an OD and thus ghosting.

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(07-06-2013 1:32 PM)Blade Wrote:  Androsterone is pretty awful on its own, what your essentially doing is giving off a very mature, boring, fartherly vibe. If your looking to create status your going to have to add several different molecules, such as Androstanone, Beta Androstenol, epi-Androsterone, Androstenone, Atrione ratios are going to be up to you to test and find out.

Agreed, he's got b-nol and Androstadienone and those should be quite OK to mix with if it's social effects he's after.

Yeah I was thinkn the same thing. Why didn't you just get a premixed product first then learn as you go? LAL has some of the best products on the market. You Kinda just jumped in the deep end before learning to swim first. Combining singles for effect takes A LOT of time to learn.

Instead of buying a watch you kinda just bought pieces separately then ask how to put it together. We can try to help you some but that was a big leap to start off with.

Arone by itself like said earlier kinda sucks. You give off this middle-aged settled down housebroken male vibe. Also solo it tends to make others delegate tasks to you. They see you as the goto guy to complete missions. "the guy that gets shit done". This gets annoying and the higher you go the worse it gets.

Arone works good if u add a bit on none to it for an edge or epi if you want a more relaxed vibe. The Beta Androstenol will add some depth but if you mixed all 3 of those together you are gonna prolly get the comfortable saddled hubby material effect (arone+Androstadienone ) who probably wants to listen to her deep worldly troubles (Beta Androstenol). Not sure if that's what ur going for but it will come close.

(07-06-2013 1:34 PM)Jolly Jumper Wrote:  First of all I think 16 mcg is a whole hell of a lot of Androsterone. I wouldn't expect social effects from it, in fact I'd expect an OD and thus ghosting.

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Agreed, he's got b-nol and Androstadienone and those should be quite OK to mix with if it's social effects he's after.

Thanks, I have definitely noticed positive effects after about 2 hours of use, although they are a bit difficult to identify. Although at this stage I'm just trying to get a feel for how these pheromones work individually, I'll definitely be mixing them once I try to generate some attraction.

(07-06-2013 1:34 PM)Jolly Jumper Wrote:  First of all I think 16 mcg is a whole hell of a lot of Androsterone. I wouldn't expect social effects from it, in fact I'd expect an OD and thus ghosting.[hr

No ghosting. I've run 200 mcg solo before on high end testing. In a group setting you pretty much become the official go do everything guy. Get this get that, request this song, hand me this.. etc.

It's ultra annoying. If you refuse or get sick of it the group kinda shuns you a bit bc you are going against a certain perceived Sig. Until u start complying to group requests again, a form of isolation ensues. Very weird vibe. Its not beta, its just more of being asked to do more shit than usual.

(07-06-2013 3:41 PM)thundr Wrote:  No ghosting. I've run 200 mcg solo before on high end testing. In a group setting you pretty much become the official go do everything guy. Get this get that, request this song, hand me this.. etc.

It's ultra annoying. If you refuse or get sick of it the group kinda shuns you a bit bc you are going against a certain perceived Sig. Until u start complying to group requests again, a form of isolation ensues. Very weird vibe. Its not beta, its just more of being asked to do more shit than usual.

OK. Never tried this extreme Androsterone thing and now that you describe it, I probably never will.

I'm particularly interested in testing out the sulfated androsterones -- such as the ones disclosed in the L2K ingredients list.

They are androsterone potassium sulfate and androsterone sodium sulfate. Gonna search around later

I definitely was the "go to" guy while wearing this at work, however I feel like it did come with much more respect and a mature vibe, so it can definitely have uses in a mix.