(03-10-2016 11:32 AM)Ekscentra Wrote:  Not at all. Just clearing things up.

I'd absolutely consider this an all-in-one. It seems to be a real chameleon so far in that different ranges of effects become prominent in different situations. If alpha effects are called for, that kicks into gear. Social? You got it. Romance? Same.

I imagine sexual effects will manifest themselves in the right situation as well. After all, P88 has been referred to as the 'holy grail of sex mixes.' Or perhaps I steered the mix in a direction that puts far less emphasis on the sexual aspect. That remains to be seen.

I'd love to see someone experienced with combining Nude Alpha, XiSt oil (or ETFZ), and various Androstadienone -based mixes test this one out. A comparison would be extremely valuable.

I've comboed NA before with either Xist or ETFZ. The effects seem to be amplified, but not as drastic as compared to NA + an Androstadienone product. I will have to find a new test subject to test all three of these in unison.

(03-10-2016 11:45 AM)Ekscentra Wrote:  I stand corrected, then. Would you be willing to expand upon this? I'd like to know how you perceive this instant fallout effect.

Well...since it is your thread and all...

"Fallout is when a woman latches on to you as a result of pheromone exposure. She wants to be with you and wants to spend more time with you." I said this in a post on PheroTalk 6 years ago.

I and many others have talked about what fallout is. So it has been proven to exist.

The question is when does fallout occur. Does fallout occur when the person (user) is no longer there or when the brain first creates the memory?....lol

(03-10-2016 11:32 AM)Ekscentra Wrote:  Not at all. Just clearing things up.

I'd absolutely consider this an all-in-one. It seems to be a real chameleon so far in that different ranges of effects become prominent in different situations. If alpha effects are called for, that kicks into gear. Social? You got it. Romance? Same.

I imagine sexual effects will manifest themselves in the right situation as well. After all, P88 has been referred to as the 'holy grail of sex mixes.' Or perhaps I steered the mix in a direction that puts far less emphasis on the sexual aspect. That remains to be seen.

I'd love to see someone experienced with combining Nude Alpha, XiSt oil (or ETFZ), and various Androstadienone -based mixes test this one out. A comparison would be extremely valuable.

I have been using Xist oil + NA + Imprint (also used cohesion instead) recently but am way too inexperienced with mones compared to the users I have been following to be able to test this out. Much as I want, and can't wait, to test this out. Argh!!

Like a lot of the members here, I'll be watching your progress with great interest. Folks have tried for years to replicate A314 and most have either failed or come close. You and I haven't agreed with each other in the past but I can definitely agree that your intuition with Pheromones appears to be quite extensive. Good luck dude, you've got a lot of guys who are keeping their fingers crossed for ya.

(03-10-2016 12:15 PM)Paradox Wrote:  Well...since it is your thread and all...

"Fallout is when a woman latches on to you as a result of pheromone exposure. She wants to be with you and wants to spend more time with you." I said this in a post on PheroTalk 6 years ago.

I and many others have talked about what fallout is. So it has been proven to exist.

The question is when does fallout occur. Does fallout occur when the person (user) is no longer there or when the brain first creates the memory?....lol

I think you may have misunderstood my question. I was asking about your personal experiences. What makes you consider A314 Rev.29 an "instant fallout" mix as opposed to a slow-building fallout mix?

I think the initial memory holds some degree of importance, but that future experiences compound that memory until the idea of you reaches the point of obsession. I think a combination of what you and I have mentioned are key aspects to the whole of the fallout process.

(03-10-2016 2:59 PM)2000GT Wrote:  Like a lot of the members here, I'll be watching your progress with great interest. Folks have tried for years to replicate A314 and most have either failed or come close. You and I haven't agreed with each other in the past but I can definitely agree that your intuition with Pheromones appears to be quite extensive. Good luck dude, you've got a lot of guys who are keeping their fingers crossed for ya.

We don't always have to agree. I still value your experience regardless of past disagreement. The same can be said for any other member here - I refuse to hold grudges. More than a few times, I've been the one in the wrong. I think it's time to move beyond that point.

I'd love to see how this mix compares to XS170, if only for the thrill of competition. Pushing the art of pheromones forward is a truly exhilarating thing.

I appreciate the comments, and I look forward to hearing your thoughts when this idea finally comes to light.

Uhh you know thread titles can be edited, right?

(03-10-2016 9:15 PM)NP17 Wrote:  Uhh you know thread titles can be edited, right?

Not that I'm aware of. I'm seeing no option to edit this thread title.

(03-10-2016 9:20 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  Not that I'm aware of. I'm seeing no option to edit this thread title.

Go to your first post you made and click edit and choose Full edit
You'll be able to edit the title then

I'd be interested in Opus and your Panty Scorcher version. I wish you success.