Im a short girl with a personality that is hard to deal with. I started to notice lately that shy insecure guys stay as far as possible from me... but I noticed (usually tall) "I dont really care what people think of me" mature kind of guys are the ones who are nice and not easily annoyed by me. :/ some kind of big bro feel to it. How can I take advance of this... maybe make the whole "little sis" feeling stronger so they dont leave my side, lol. Change them from bro's into bodyguards?

I don't see how the title of the thread relates to the topic???

But anyway, I'd say that EST (Estratetraenol) is a make the man feel good pheromone that women can use. Other socials such as Alpha Androstenol, DHEAS, and others can easily work on anybody.

Seems that there isn't a single pheromone that does what you want to me. Your natural pheromone signature is very complex with dozens of natural/endogenous chemicals oozing from your skin, glands, eyes and exhaled breath that give a subconscious chemical signature of yourself to those within smelling distance.

You can't just increase a single molecule and expect the whole "recipe" to be exactly what you want. Like saying, hmm, I want to turn this bowl of porridge into peach cobbler, what single ingredient can I add to make that happen. You can't say what pheromone can I add and make me a smoking hot babe, or even someone people can stand. It's a little more than that. Because if the porridge turns into peach cobbler but it's in a toilet bowl instead of a dessert bowl, nobody wants to eat it. If your personallity is such that you make everybody hate you from what you say and do, it will be hard to cover up with 'mones, just like getting someone to eat peach cobbler out of the toilet bowl.

erox.com has the patent on androstadienone and estratetraenol in perfume at x%
they have studies that show that they work on men and women. but they list 3 scientists who are 65, 69, 85 years old and retired. I think the erox company is like 4 people who license the stuff and collect checks. But if you want to see some EST literature look there, and here at PT.

Seems like you are a noob. So I'll help you look for the search button as well. It should be near the top of the screen with a magnifying glass.

I have been using phero's for a long time but not daily and i'm
far from an expert. About the title: I was curious if it could be my own pheromones that give people a "little sis" vibe. Thank you for your post.

Why not read some of the women's journals before posting? There are a number of people on these boards who have used various women's products for various purposes, and then reported on their experiences.

Ok ill look into those

(01-24-2013 5:07 PM)Marzipan Wrote:  Im a short girl with a personality that is hard to deal with

I would say that this is your first matter of concern. Since it's 90% personality and 10% pheromones (or less) doing the work I would be trying to figure out how you could improve the things about yourself that are your own worst stumbling blocks.

(01-24-2013 5:07 PM)Marzipan Wrote:  maybe make the whole "little sis" feeling stronger so they dont leave my side, lol. Change them from bro's into bodyguards?

Est can gear people toward protectiveness but because of some people's personalities it can make you appear weak. Some guys respond to this great...like my hubby...but I've heard some women say they can't wear it around their significant other because it can cause arguments. Most of the time, for me though, it's fostered kindness from others. It could cause your guys to either be more kind or treat you even more like a sister, but you'd have to experiment to know for sure.

Maybe what you would even want to consider is a blend that might help round out your rough edges and smooth out your "hard to deal with" vibe?

Happy hunting/experimenting!

(01-26-2013 3:29 AM)NuTrix Wrote:  I would say that this is your first matter of concern. Since it's 90% personality and 10% pheromones (or less) doing the work I would be trying to figure out how you could improve the things about yourself that are your own worst stumbling blocks.

(01-24-2013 5:07 PM)Marzipan Wrote:  maybe make the whole "little sis" feeling stronger so they dont leave my side, lol. Change them from bro's into bodyguards?

Est can gear people toward protectiveness but because of some people's personalities it can make you appear weak. Some guys respond to this great...like my hubby...but I've heard some women say they can't wear it around their significant other because it can cause arguments. Most of the time, for me though, it's fostered kindness from others. It could cause your guys to either be more kind or treat you even more like a sister, but you'd have to experiment to know for sure.

Maybe what you would even want to consider is a blend that might help round out your rough edges and smooth out your "hard to deal with" vibe?

Happy hunting/experimenting!

Thank you and yes,i am thinking about ordering Flirt-XS and , treasured hearts and Heart 2 heart in the future. Should try some empathy mixes.