Trying to decide between the two while XS has its 30 percent off coupon going though unfortunately API doesn't qualify for it.

Just wondering how you are using them and which one you have found more effective or useful.

I'm wondering the same. I've been looking for a good replacement for A314. Sorry for the threadjack.

I prefer Ascend nowadays. I've worn Ascend for about 2 years, and Api has been tested for about 2 months in a row.

Ascend is very cheap per application. And somewhat more formal. Both are very different than A314. A314 is more authoritarian than both Ascend and Api.

Inconcievablezen, would it be accurate to say that if A314 brought out the drill sergeant in me, Ascend would bring out my inner suave-and-debonair-boss?

Also, do you use cops version or no cops?

(10-26-2014 3:00 AM)kimosabe Wrote:  Inconcievablezen, would it be accurate to say that if A314 brought out the drill sergeant in me, Ascend would bring out my inner suave-and-debonair-boss?

Also, do you use cops version or no cops?

That's exactly what I was looking for when I bought ascend. Unfortunately Ascend does not work for me.
I tried Api in a sample and liked it. I never tried Core, but APi gives me kind of what I think Core does on its own (from reading Core reviews)


M.

Could you elaborate on why Ascend didn't work for you? Thanks! Edit: found your post from Feb with the details.

Co-incidentally, I made a quick run to the supermarket with 2 Core + 1 Titan today. Lots of respect and friendliness from the cashier lady. She called me "sir" when she had never done that before.

(10-26-2014 3:00 AM)kimosabe Wrote:  Inconcievablezen, would it be accurate to say that if A314 brought out the drill sergeant in me, Ascend would bring out my inner suave-and-debonair-boss?

Also, do you use cops version or no cops?

I usually add half a drop of desireme XS. Wich is a cops overload! 2 drops of Ascend, 1 spray of bliss every 6 hours.

Might be true! I'm not a drill sergeant on Ascend!

Ascend makes me very grounded, confident and self assured. I'm in control and other people know it and respect it. Ascend makes every interaction very smooth and people bend over backwards to want to help me and make me happy. I wear 2 drops of Ascend spread between the sides of my neck and tops of my hands. I have it in the black pepper and nutmeg scent with copulins. I do think the copulins make a difference. Oh, and for the record, in my experience this can be turned sexual. Women like power and I project a powerful image while wearing this.

I haven't use API, so I can't answer the question of the post.
However, I've been an user of Ascend (without cops) spray for one year.
Normally using Ascend spray + Cohesion oil, for night game. On last weeks, changed usual formula to Cohesion+ New Pheromone Additive, Cohesion + Chikara, Chikara+New Pheromone Additive.

Anyway, went back to 1 spray Ascend + 2 spray Cohesion.

I got challenged on wednesday and on friday again.

Wednesday: I opened a 2 set close to bathroom , set is happy, laughing, etc. Then came their male friend (typical unhappy redneck),When he came, straight away HB6 18yo Blonde girl told friendly way, he is her cousin. He came agressive to block me by standing between me and the girls. I moved my position, follow routines. Male, pull agressive to him HB7 20yo Brunette one, when I did few kino. At certain point: Redneck :Don't you should leave? (with agression face)
Immediately,

lokoloko "I'm gonna leave, when I fucking want, when I decide it", point her face with my hands, intimidating him, with whole tension.
Redneck: "Hei, girls get out of here" and push out the brunnette to move, then they follow the flow.

Friday: I was in a 4 set, HB8 18 yo girls laughing and having a good time. Came a guy on my back, while me sitting.
Young guy: Don't you should leave?
lokoloko: I pushed on his chest, away from me "Oh no, fuck off, get lost".
Again he repeated the same or something, I ignored him. He went to girls trying to convince them to go somewhere. Then he got lost.


Friday: with a bit more mature 2 set(different bar), similar than on wednesday (guy came just after I opened the 2 set). Difference: male friend was a friendly guy, who keep enjoying my routines and even kind of also gaming the girls with my help and vibe. I introduce my wing to the group, and went fine.
Number closed on brunette 24 yo HB7, who got kind of offended with my negs. I just said, that between you of two, you look like the bad girl, and you the good girl. At other point, I called her, alcoholic for pushing their friends to drink, just few minutes before bar close. Those negs, really hit their self-steam.

OVERALL: I think Ascend was doing something on all interactions.

I used both.. I prefer api.. Its smooth and orig. a314 like ..