Rageful effects.

I've got a couple score pheromones/putatives sitting around.

There are two I've tried that have caused angry reactions:
Cohesion
Turn Up The Heat

I don't mean pumped up like you get on AV. I mean like rageful/mean.

Is it possible this was just Androstadienone ? I'm afraid to try Imprint and Core because I've heard they Androstadienone . In fact, I am afraid to try any mix with Androstadienone . My only theory is that on some primal level, I though the signature was some sort of threat. I went into pure fight/flight mode.

Any ideas on what that might be? It was two drops mixed with Evolve. Evolve solo, no big deal.

Here is a brief list of the other that have NO such negative effects:
Perfect 10
NA
PPA
x22
NNPA
Glace
Atlas
Evolve
API
Xist
Alter Ego
Edge
M3X
Hypnotica
Wolf
Dozen or so random putatives

core doesn't have Androstadienone

Yep, was drunk and went ape shit at my brother. Can't make sense of it to this day. Was wearing 3/4 sprays of M3x which is a lot. Was on a stag so had been drinking a few days back to back and wearing high none products. I've had nothing like it before and never since, lasted two hours, just wouldn't stop trying to hit him. Not a violent person, never hit my brother since we were kids, and we're v close. I'm fairly self aware and don't believe i have any underlying psychological issues or animus to my brother. So it seems likely there's a connection with the none.

Don't drink or get baked while on mones.

Don't drink with M3X. Tried that four times. Could barely remember anything every single time.

Cohesion and Turn Up The Heat are almost at opposite ends of the mone spectrum. Androstadienone usually causes depression,not anger.

(05-20-2016 2:12 PM)Blacky Chan Wrote:  Cohesion and Turn Up The Heat are almost at opposite ends of the mone spectrum. Androstadienone usually causes depression,not anger.

Yeah - treat Turn Up The Heat as a wild card. I got tense and uptight, not beserk. Oddly enough my anger with cohesion was also with a relative. But I was uptight for like 2 days. It was so impulsive, I haven't touched the bottle.

I'm going dive in on imprint soon. Overcome my fear of Androstadienone .

(05-20-2016 7:51 PM)Jimmycrack Wrote:  Yeah - treat Turn Up The Heat as a wild card. I got tense and uptight, not beserk. Oddly enough my anger with cohesion was also with a relative. But I was uptight for like 2 days. It was so impulsive, I haven't touched the bottle.

I'm going dive in on imprint soon. Overcome my fear of Androstadienone .

Cohesion has 5mcg of Androstenone/spray and Turn Up The Heat has 2.5mcg/per spray.Maybe,you have a problem with Androstenone products and not Androstadienone products.

Yeah do not drink heavy with M3X. Don't do it

If I forget to wash off the Androstadienone after using it, I start getting really angry. I've woken very angry during the night, plotting petty, stupid revenge. It took a bit to figure what was happening, but I find that it is hard to control my thoughts once it has started. It also lasts for a few days even after washed. Outside of this, I never have any personal anger or aggression issues.