So many Alpha/Status products or hybrids out there (Wolf,Bad Wolf,Ascend,API,A314 1.32,Captain,Alpha treasures,Titan).

I've tried Wolf sometimes, a sample of Ascend and I have Bad Wolf.Wolf was on the friendly side, worked wonders and very consistent.I personally prefer a more serious side, commanding, a bit dark and a little intimidation.
I really liked Ascend, seemed well balanced and powerful.Bad Wolf is more complex but has solid status elements.

Ascend's sample was too small to have a clear picture but it could be my choice for alpha/status.
What is your choice?It would be useful to mention different products used and compared.So, for me Ascend/Bad Wolf>Wolf

Although some might argue this thread is redundant, I prefer keeping this to a more specific discussion.

Compared to OD, NA, AV, Wolf, Full Moon, Androsterone Warrior, Atlas, APi, and AT, I still prefer A314 Rev.32 above all. Smooth, grounded, but more on the subtle side. It commands respect moreso than any of the other mixes listed, and though it can be problematic on its own for me at 3+ drops, it's easy to buffer without blunting its positive aspects. Fits well in most combos too, extremely versatile depending on what you choose to mix it with.

If you like the more dark, serious and commanding side, AV has exactly that ime. It is a little too dark for my taste but it works well.

My favourite aggressive alpha product is Bad Wolf. Awesome self effects including clearer thinking and speech pattern, improved body posture and it can be steered to a lighter mood at ease. I have not had negative consequences from wearing BW, but I can't say the same for AV.

(03-31-2016 12:34 PM)vektroider Wrote:  If you like the more dark, serious and commanding side, AV has exactly that ime. It is a little too dark for my taste but it works well.

My favourite aggressive alpha product is Bad Wolf. Awesome self effects including clearer thinking and speech pattern, improved body posture and it can be steered to a lighter mood at ease. I have not had negative consequences from wearing BW, but I can't say the same for AV.

I agree about BW, aggressive yet no negative experiences no matter the dose (up to 6 drops).It's my #1 for general use.I haven't figured AV, it makes me mad.I've nothing at all with some very blatant hits in between.On the other hand I've used it only during the day.


From what I've used and my intuition about the rest, I'd be very interested in a comparison between A314,BW,Ascend and Alpha Treasures.

NP17 has already compared these mixes in a thread a few pages back (along with my work-in-progress reverse-engineered A314-esque mix). You'll know when you see it.

(03-31-2016 1:54 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  NP17 has already compared these mixes in a thread a few pages back (along with my work-in-progress reverse-engineered A314-esque mix). You'll know when you see it.

Thanks, I haven't seen that at all

(03-31-2016 1:18 PM)stefdude Wrote:  I agree about BW, aggressive yet no negative experiences no matter the dose (up to 6 drops).It's my #1 for general use.I haven't figured AV, it makes me mad.I've nothing at all with some very blatant hits in between.On the other hand I've used it only during the day.


From what I've used and my intuition about the rest, I'd be very interested in a comparison between A314,BW,Ascend and Alpha Treasures.

The one aspect of BW that can be tricky for me is keeping my demeanor out of "asshole" territory with women. Had a strange situation this last weekend with a level-5 nutcase who was throwing some serious shit-tests at me.......while BW held her at bay. Normally, this would have ended with me throwing her out of the car, but the BW kept her from crossing the line........which I've seen with DP and SOB.

Never seen any aggressiveness from any male Uber riders with this mix, but definitely had some shit tests from women.

Unfortunately, I have to put Ascend at the bottom of the pile.........with me, it scares the shit out of women when I wear it alone. I think that some of Stevo's mixes are not quite finished.........like a great song missing a harmony track.....or perhaps there's something else causing the mix to fail as a whole.

AT is good, but since I've used the old A314, it feels like alpha on low-power, but also much more friendly.

Heard great things about Captain and Atlas, but haven't tried them yet.

Finally, the sleeper here might be straight cops (DM oil). I've used this on several occasions (sample) and always get reactions of massive respect from everyone. One of the reasons for this might be the unbridled diffusion...........aka "stank juice". You'll never wonder if it's hitting someone............don't worry........it's hitting everyone!!!

One of the things I really liked about Ascend is that in more than 2/3 of my tests it effectively passed the message that I've been with a woman very recently.I was asked directly or indirectly.I didn't find it scary although I didn't test it enough with women (1-2 times).Maybe some intimidation from males, I got a silent compliance, even from alpha males.

I am also looking for the best alpha/status blend.

Status wise AV>Captain>AT>Atlas>Wolf. However, in my view only AV and Wolf may be considered standalone formula. Captain, AT and Atlas need mixing to achieve the same level of "impact".

AV is very inconsistent and bit to "dark" for a daily use. Wolf is definitely too friendly for my taste. It works wonders on male coworkers but it is blend, which clears me from female radars making me transparent and not interesting.

Still I need to test BW and Ascend as I haven't got A314. I am also looking forward to Ekscentra's mix.

Have you considered trying AV gel? One consistency I've noticed with gels is that the buffers seem to play their role much more effectively. Perhaps AV gel could eliminate problems with inconsistency and balance the dark vibe AV can give off. I'm tempted to test this.