(07-14-2015 1:58 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  XiSt is quite mediocre for imprinting, in my experience, as is Nude Alpha - it takes far too many exposures to get going, and even then it's not all that impressive. The best imprinting mix for me has been Voodoo, but the depression eliminates its usefulness. Overall, I prefer to use A314 and P96 for imprinting, as this mix doesn't create the negative self-effects of other imprinting mixes, nor the crash of XiSt. Additionally, it takes less exposures than the XiSt + NA combo, and is roughly equal to the XiSt, NA, and Imprint combo.

Yeah, I thought about Voodoo, seeing as it's main draw is imprinting, but it's worrisome that a lot of people aren't too crazy about it. I know everyone's different and that it may work for me (no depression) but I would hate to pay that much for a product with mediocre reviews. I've read Xist does take multiple exposures to work, but when that happens, it works very well. How long does Voodoo take to work?

So far it seems like Voodoo, Xist, and Nude Alpha are the ones mentioned most. So at least my selections are starting to be narrowed down.

(07-14-2015 7:50 PM)Wally West Wrote:  Yeah, I thought about Voodoo, seeing as it's main draw is imprinting, but it's worrisome that a lot of people aren't too crazy about it. I know everyone's different and that it may work for me (no depression) but I would hate to pay that much for a product with mediocre reviews. I've read Xist does take multiple exposures to work, but when that happens, it works very well. How long does Voodoo take to work?

So far it seems like Voodoo, Xist, and Nude Alpha are the ones mentioned most. So at least my selections are starting to be narrowed down.

Xist, when it works, my god it works. But it is, of course, girl specific. Some will really, really love you with it, almost from the start but most definitely after three exposures. If the girl isn't in to you, though, it can feel like a dud. And it does cause me to crash, too.

(07-14-2015 7:50 PM)Wally West Wrote:  Yeah, I thought about Voodoo, seeing as it's main draw is imprinting, but it's worrisome that a lot of people aren't too crazy about it. I know everyone's different and that it may work for me (no depression) but I would hate to pay that much for a product with mediocre reviews. I've read Xist does take multiple exposures to work, but when that happens, it works very well. How long does Voodoo take to work?

So far it seems like Voodoo, Xist, and Nude Alpha are the ones mentioned most. So at least my selections are starting to be narrowed down.

I just returned my bottle of Voodoo, actually. It didn't seem to do anything for me besides make people talkative. The scent is too strong to use high doses. And the self-effects are a downer. Not only that, but with the reviews, I lost a lot of hope that I held out for it.

(07-14-2015 10:25 PM)JaGenau Wrote:  Xist, when it works, my god it works. But it is, of course, girl specific. Some will really, really love you with it, almost from the start but most definitely after three exposures. If the girl isn't in to you, though, it can feel like a dud. And it does cause me to crash, too.

XiSt only worked well on gay men, IME. Hardly anything from women - I can't say that about any other product I've used.

I haven't seen too many mediocre reviews with regard to Voodoo, self-effects aside. It works wonderfully on others, but if you happen to get depression, it's not worth it. I'm amazed how many vendors can't seem to make a decent imprinting product without using Androstadienone , especially when there's at least four equal or better alternatives I can think of off-hand.

(07-15-2015 3:56 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  XiSt only worked well on gay men, IME. Hardly anything from women - I can't say that about any other product I've used.

I haven't seen too many mediocre reviews with regard to Voodoo, self-effects aside. It works wonderfully on others, but if you happen to get depression, it's not worth it. I'm amazed how many vendors can't seem to make a decent imprinting product without using Androstadienone , especially when there's at least four equal or better alternatives I can think of off-hand.

do you mind sharing the other four alternatives?

(07-16-2015 3:34 AM)leon333 Wrote:  do you mind sharing the other four alternatives?

EST at normal doses (can castrate mixes, but better than depression IMO), 2.5mcg TAH + 2.5mcg TAL (more sensitive than Androstadienone , but just as effective IME), and 25mcg P96.

I'm keeping the last one secret for now - too powerful.