Let's say I was looking for raw pheromone powders; where would I start?

Particularly looking for epiandrosterone and androsterone in the upwards of grams. Let's say 7-10g of each.

(11-05-2012 12:31 PM)Grape Ape Wrote:  Let's say I was looking for raw pheromone powders; where would I start?

Particularly looking for epiandrosterone and androsterone in the upwards of grams. Let's say 7-10g of each.

If you can contact Chris and buy +$100 worth of product he has good prices for bulk orders. I don't know what purity they'd be.

That is what I thought. I don't see why it would be over $50 for this. I will ha e the enquire. Thank you.

I can get 1800mg(18g) of epiandrosterone for $30, but it is in pill form and I don't know how to remove the filler. I have a thought, but the process seems like a Bitch. Anyone have an answer for this?

(11-06-2012 2:01 AM)Grape Ape Wrote:  That is what I thought. I don't see why it would be over $50 for this. I will ha e the enquire. Thank you.

I can get 1800mg(18g) of epiandrosterone for $30, but it is in pill form and I don't know how to remove the filler. I have a thought, but the process seems like a Bitch. Anyone have an answer for this?

Please Post link or address, get a Centrifuge from ebay.

http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/shred...-60ct.html
http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/lgi-stano-200.html

EDIT: those centrifuges look like a pain in my ass for what I need, and a little pricey.

(11-06-2012 9:06 AM)Grape Ape Wrote:  http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/shred...-60ct.html
http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/lgi-stano-200.html

EDIT: those centrifuges look like a pain in my ass for what I need, and a little pricey.

What I've founded from this site: http://www.truefreedomsupplements.com/ca...583707.htm

This stuff is, 3-beta-hydroxyetioallocholan-17-one - 300mg
Other Ingredients: Rice flour, gelatin.

The gelatin I always Thought was the capsule, so the centrifuge would put the booth to the Rice powder and you would get away pretty clean with the 3-beta-hydroxyetioallocholan-17-one. (I'm not sure this is epiandrosterone).

Check out what the ProhormoneDB site said:
http://prohormonedb.com/view-ingredients...-one&i=150

That link aside, I know it is epiandrosterone. All stanodrol prohormones are. I'm too lazy and not in the mood to argue this, so take my word for what it is. The evidence is out there though.


The slight chance I am wrong, here's my apology ahead of time. But I'm not...right?

(11-06-2012 12:17 PM)Grape Ape Wrote:  That link aside, I know it is epiandrosterone. All stanodrol prohormones are. I'm too lazy and not in the mood to argue this, so take my word for what it is. The evidence is out there though.


The slight chance I am wrong, here's my apology ahead of time. But I'm not...right?

I don't know GP, Dose it hold up to this comment by Chris in another thread (comment was not directed at this thread)?

(10-03-2012 4:31 PM)Alpha Dream Wrote:  It's not going to have pheromone effects ken. The 1-en group in A-ring kills any chance of pheromone effects. Only 4-en or 1,3,5(10)-trien works well in A-ring (the hexagon on the lower left quadrant of the molecular structure).

not to ruin the fun, but its not likely to do anything aside from perhaps causing acne on the skin surface...

P.S. If you could help me understand the comment by Chris a little better, I would appreciated Bra.

I can't. That is foreign to me. I'm not great with my chemistry.

I do know the stanodrol is marketed as epiandrosterone, and that there are different ways to write the nomenclature. When I last talked to Matt Portor who is an IFBB pro, and hormone expert he confirmed this.

However, how this translates into pheromones and vise versa I do not know. Maybe I was to quick to accept that it is all the same. We will need Chris or someone more experienced to clear this up.


What molecule was that qoute geared towards?

Technically, you can make your own centrifuge with a salad spinner for fairly cheap. I bought the spinner but haven't gotten around to it yet.

Diethyl ether is what we used in organic chemistry for extractions from alcohol solutions.

Upside, diethyl ether can be made to float on alcohol, removed with a pipette, and evaporated very rapidly.

Downside, diethyl ether costs money, is flammable as all heck and not so great to breathe.

You could also use, say, butane which you could probably get at a camping store. I'm not sure how pure it'd be, though.

http://www.chem.ucla.edu/~bacher/Special...ction.html