If they the same thing they did to me, the journal will eventually just disappear along with any other posts you made, and if you are/were in the Top Posters list your name will vanish from there as well.

(10-24-2015 11:48 AM)Ekscentra Wrote:  The truth is, I was more interested in your VL1 experiments and your thoughts not directly pertaining to Androtics. Perhaps you could start something in a similar vain here.

I started testing other putatives because I saw the potential of using molecules other than Androstenone and Alpha Androstenol in everything.

I discovered VL1 after theorizing that it might have phero properties. Luckily I hit the dosage right on the head on my first try otherwise I may have missed the effects completely and written it off.

So far I have tested 16 putatives and VL1 is my biggest find.

Androtics asked me to send a sample to them but when I asked them for a Non-disclosure agreement they backed away.

My fear was that they would take it analyze it and just start using it in formulas.

(10-24-2015 2:51 PM)mark-in-dallas Wrote:  If they the same thing they did to me, the journal will eventually just disappear along with any other posts you made, and if you are/were in the Top Posters list your name will vanish from there as well.

That's too bad. A lot of good information will be lost. Not for me but for the new users and veterans.

No information will be lost. I spent the last few hours manually copying your entire journal. I only omitted irrelevant filler posts and most industry-related posts (which you've already posted here on PT).

(10-24-2015 7:35 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  No information will be lost. I spent the last few hours manually copying your entire journal. I only omitted irrelevant filler posts and most industry-related posts (which you've already posted here on PT).

I'm flattered and humbled by the fact that you have done this. I'll give credit where credit is due.

Surfs_up (aka Tacitus) was the greatest tester that I've known. I've learned almost I know about testing from Tacitus' writings. I even had the privilege of PMing him a few times before he died.

So anyway rep+ for your hard work!

(10-25-2015 4:43 PM)Paradox Wrote:  I'm flattered and humbled by the fact that you have done this. I'll give credit where credit is due.

Surfs_up (aka Tacitus) was the greatest tester that I've known. I've learned almost I know about testing from Tacitus' writings. I even had the privilege of PMing him a few times before he died.

So anyway rep+ for your hard work!

I appreciate the rels, Paradox.

Yes, tacitus was perhaps the greatest tester this community has known. He never took any half-measures and his ideas were always on the fringe of acquired knowledge. I feel Warren deserves to be mentioned in a similar vain. I'm unsure what happened to him, but I'd highly recommend looking into his posts if you haven't done so already. Much of what I've learned has come from Warren, even moreso than tacitus himself.

@Ekscentra, With Paradox benediction, could you please find a way of sharing Paradox's journal here at PTruth ?

M.

(10-25-2015 5:01 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  I appreciate the rels, Paradox.

Yes, tacitus was perhaps the greatest tester this community has known. He never took any half-measures and his ideas were always on the fringe of acquired knowledge. I feel Warren deserves to be mentioned in a similar vain. I'm unsure what happened to him, but I'd highly recommend looking into his posts if you haven't done so already. Much of what I've learned has come from Warren, even moreso than tacitus himself.

Yes I agree about Warren. he is on my PTalk list of one of the few posters there who knew what he was talking about.

During my 5 years at PTalk I've read almost every post ever posted there.

I read and research alot.

(10-26-2015 3:37 AM)moe Wrote:  @Ekscentra, With Paradox benediction, could you please find a way of sharing Paradox's journal here at PTruth ?

M.

Hi M,

My journal has a few thousand hits and several daily readers. So yeah, he can post it.

Sorry Androtics has decided to ban me. It's like TV writers killing off your favorite character.

(10-26-2015 3:37 AM)moe Wrote:  @Ekscentra, With Paradox benediction, could you please find a way of sharing Paradox's journal here at PTruth ?

M.

I'll find a way to upload the files. I can't say how long it'll take. Given that they're just text files at the moment, it shouldn't be long.

Or in fact, it may be better simply to re-post the journal in the journals section. It'll take longer, but once it's finished, it'll be easier to access.