I posted about this in another section... wasn't sure where it should go but...

I've read that this is closely related to Pregnenolone. In fact, it appears that in the 40's when scientists originally discovered Cortisol, they had discovered Pregnenolone at about the same time and put it aside to mess with cortisol.... If that's true, shouldn't it be useful as a phero?

I looked up it's structure and indeed it does have a similar structure to all the other mones that we use. Has anyone here ever tried this one? Seems like it could have some good effects... structure reminds me of dhea.

a priori you might expect high cortisol on its own to be unattractive - low status men (people) are the most stressed of all, because they have little control over their life and are constantly hen-pecked.

but on the other hand, sapolsky points out that to maintain the top rank in a baboon hierarchy is tremendously stressful, and aging, and maybe it can be congruent to be of high status and stressed if other supporting factors are there and check out.

As PheroQuirk pointed out, cortIsol = poor fat balding stressed out little man. Not something you want to project!

And, if used in a pheromone product, could be harmful to ones health..

Not something I wish to try..

Some people here believe pregnenolone works as a pheromone, but I don't believe in it at all. In fact, when -neno was added to glace, the effects were disastrous. Coco-glace was an experiment with -neno.. And we all know how well that worked out.

I didn't know that about neno, in fact, this is the first time I've heard this.

I have to say that I've had zero luck with straight neno; I've never got it to work. Even in fairly high doses I don't see the slightest hits.

(12-31-2011 7:34 PM)Alpha Dream Wrote:  As PheroQuirk pointed out, cortIsol = poor fat balding stressed out little man. Not something you want to project!

And, if used in a pheromone product, could be harmful to ones health..

Not something I wish to try..

Some people here believe pregnenolone works as a pheromone, but I don't believe in it at all. In fact, when -neno was added to glace, the effects were disastrous. Coco-glace was an experiment with -neno.. And we all know how well that worked out.

(12-31-2011 7:34 PM)Alpha Dream Wrote:  As PheroQuirk pointed out, cortIsol = poor fat balding stressed out little man. Not something you want to project!

And, if used in a pheromone product, could be harmful to ones health..

Not something I wish to try..

Some people here believe pregnenolone works as a pheromone, but I don't believe in it at all. In fact, when -neno was added to glace, the effects were disastrous. Coco-glace was an experiment with -neno.. And we all know how well that worked out.

Weird. Some people on here seem to swear by neno.

What about that beta-androSTANol hybrid molecule? That looks promising. Does it work well?