I have seen this post long time ago, but couldnt find it in the search, and google isnt helping either, regarding moens.

I remember someone saying he was not having as effective workouts while using TL or other DHEA products. so I was wondering has this been proven to create more estrogenics or w/e which leads to some health problem?

SteveO uses in microamounts in his products (pheromoneXS) and claims that at a very low dose it has 'look at me!' effect however once past a certain threshold it kills the mix... Honestly I personally think not using it is a better idea but hey this mans a genius so he must of tested it enough to know...

TL does not contain any DHEA at all I think you might be thinking of est or meo est, DHEA is used to make strong Alpha or sexual signatures more believable like the your status has been earned. Many people believe DHEA to do nothing which couldn't be further from the truth, it actually really useful in mixes, but took me a long time with some coaching from Steve to really discover what it did.

(04-28-2014 3:14 PM)Blade Wrote:  TL does not contain any DHEA at all I think you might be thinking of est or meo est, DHEA is used to make strong Alpha or sexual signatures more believable like the your status has been earned. Many people believe DHEA to do nothing which couldn't be further from the truth, it actually really useful in mixes, but took me a long time with some coaching from Steve to really discover what it did.

right i was thinking about est or meo est idk why i said DHEA, i think i was thiking about the supplement my aunt used to take.

so what about the est or meo est?