Hi,

I want to try to do some own d3 spray. Now I need your help because I havnt done something like this before.

What do I need and where can I buy it.

(01-10-2012 2:25 PM)Glidarn Wrote:  Hi,

I want to try to do some own d3 spray. Now I need your help because I havnt done something like this before.

What do I need and where can I buy it.

Hi Bud,

think you can find all in the thread by dbot .. that you´ll find on his profile .. it´s called the poor man JamesBond

and in XPX´s journal ..

Cheers,

Pago

(01-10-2012 2:28 PM)Pagodeiro Wrote:  Hi Bud,

think you can find all in the thread by dbot .. that you´ll find on his profile .. it´s called the poor man JamesBond

and in XPX´s journal ..

Cheers,

Pago

Ok, I will search and read.

Thanks!

What Pago said, but I personally don't like the idea of using pills because you aren't going to get accurate dosages. Somehow I am not sure if pregnenolone works on myself from a few tests, but compare the dosages in the one thread on neno with that when Alpha dream sells it. Some amount of the stuff you want must be getting trapped in the rice powder or whatever goop is in the pill.

It really isn't a bad idea.. you can say that the stuff works, but it will be better to have consistent dosages in reports.

I was going to suggest a group buy on some Alpha Dream molecules, but I got impatient and just ordered most of the ones I want to try.

I am planning on getting some pure powders from Purebulk and these will probably be way more than I ever need, so I guess I could send some to people.

On my list so far is:

PEA
DHEA
Vit D

They want you to pre-qualify the D3 order, but I think I can convince them to sell to me. Just let me know if you guys will want some. I don't know if there are some other places I should be looking at besides Purebulk, so going to research a bit more first.

If you have a precise scale I also suggest you to use powder, if not capsules are the better way...

Any tricks for establishing the concentration of solutions? Does anyone have info on what it takes to make a saturated solution of these molecules? Would boiling off or evaporating the water cause the hormone/pheromone to evaportate or break down?

(01-10-2012 3:57 PM)chypre Wrote:  What Pago said, but I personally don't like the idea of using pills because you aren't going to get accurate dosages.

You could get accurate dosages if you were willing to waste some of your molecules. A saturated solution of neno in pure ethanol is (.010g/mL).

So make sure you have a saturated solution, then dilute. The only downside is it might not be pure because other substances will dissolve.

(01-23-2012 12:28 AM)wiserd Wrote:  Any tricks for establishing the concentration of solutions? Does anyone have info on what it takes to make a saturated solution of these molecules? Would boiling off or evaporating the water cause the hormone/pheromone to evaportate or break down?

Read dbots post that pago suggested.

You should not subject your solution to direct heat. Boiling is a bad idea. You will be using perfumers alcohol to dissolve your product and you never want to heat alcohol with direct heat. Fire hazard...

I read that 140 degrees F is where some mones start to break down. I believe this was an answer given to answer is it safe to leave mones in a car on hot summer day.

To speed up disolving you can place the bottle in a warm water bath.

(02-10-2012 4:57 AM)wiserd Wrote:  You could get accurate dosages if you were willing to waste some of your molecules. A saturated solution of neno in pure ethanol is (.010g/mL).

So make sure you have a saturated solution, then dilute. The only downside is it might not be pure because other substances will dissolve.

Thanks, buddy! I never considered saturation when thinking about dilution.

How have you got to that number? Anything to do with molecular weight or something?

(02-10-2012 7:35 AM)Fly So Hi Wrote:  Thanks, buddy! I never considered saturation when thinking about dilution.

How have you got to that number? Anything to do with molecular weight or something?

No problem! :-) I found the info on a site selling the chemical. The saturation point is specific to what the stuff is dissolved in. It will change with the heat of the solution, sometimes dramatically. And it can't really be calculated accurately. I've always just looked up the information.

Though it's possible to look at a molecule and say "this is polar. It's got some OH or O groups stuck to it. It will probably dissolve better in water." or "this is non-polar. It's just a bunch of carbon rings (and no double bonds). It will probably dissolve better in oil and maybe a little in ethanol. "