Hey Guys! I'm new to the forum but not new to Pheromones. I've been experimenting with Pheromones off and on about 12 years now. Currently, I have AV, DP, Wolf, Corpo, LIIK. V1. (Hedione. L&S), AM( L&S) 2015, Evolve, Androstadione (Stand alone), True Opener. Yes, I know I buy these products like a bad habit. I tend to give up on them easily and buy next the product. I guess I have no patience. This is why I decided to sign up to receive advise from you guys and possible find a solution myself.

My looks: I'm shorter than average 5'5", good shape athletic body type and work out regularly, face is about 7-8 out of 10, natural tan (Indian), born and raised in good Ol' US of A Surburbs and speaks perfect English. Age is 33.

Personality: INTJ, Stiff as a board with Conservative values. Game is weak but not as weak as in my early years. I can actually communicate with older people (Male and Female) fine, younger guys with common sense and people of important figures in random places.

My Profession: I'm a College graduate (MBA). However, I'm not in 'Professional Workforce' anymore. I'm a now Professional Sports Bettor/Investor..So I do pretty well for myself in life. Most of the time I'm alone or hanging out with my older buddies in Vegas SportsBooks (I will also get into how I met them later). Basically, I'm around degenerate gamblers or weekend vacation warrior drunks. Btw, I strictly go to Vegas for Income purposes. Then there's home in entirely different city and state where I can meet girls with somewhat of normal values.


My Issue: I can't seem to cold approach a pretty girl. Not anymore anyways. I have done it before and it never turns out good. Therefore, it hurts my pride. Just being honest. But if they open me then my game goes into full throttle mode and it's ON! I can talk to not-so-good looking girls but I usually keep them at a certain distance. I have had many girls in life mostly in my younger years. But I want more. I've been single for about a year and it gets lonely. I feel as though I'm wasting my youth away. The older I get the more introverted I got. I don't like that.

My type: I've only been with White/Caucasian Females (different hair color, different eyes, different skin tones). They are who I am attracted to (product of my own Surburbia environment, I guess). Mostly 7-8 looks with height and body types ranging from 5'2-5'7" (average, athletic and skinny). I always treat them good as I'm a Mr. Nice guy. I want to move up to 9-10. I've never been with any other races or nationalities. Not interested either.

My Desire: I would like pretty/hot girls to open me mostly. So I'm looking for Pheromones to give me that extra help. Then I will go into beast mode. I have open body language. Just that my personality got stiff and introverted.

I would like to know if you guys can help a brother out and give me some useful advises on what products to use. Your help will not be overlooked.

Thank You guys in advance!

I doubt about the mones helping you out. You need a place where girls can open u up. Try yoga or dance classes. You are bound to interact with girls and find someone. It will improve your chances.

You can try glace too. Still, better create environment.

(09-26-2016 1:05 PM)kalpan56 Wrote:  I doubt about the mones helping you out. You need a place where girls can open u up. Try yoga or dance classes. You are bound to interact with girls and find someone. It will improve your chances.

You can try glace too. Still, better create environment.

Hey Kalpan! I hope your real name isn't Kumar! Just kidding. Anyway, thanks for the tip. How come I didn't think of going to dance or yoga classes. Not much of a dance guy but will for sure try Yoga!

Glacé sounds very good in description but I'm holding off on making a purchase from AD again. Their Pheromones have previously worked for me in the past, mainly Corpo 2015. New Corpo 2016 is not effective or so it seems. I will get into all of that in near future.

I'm a believer in Pheromones. I've seen them work. But not the way I imagine them to work. I just want Pheromones to work on younger hot girls. I hope that's not too much to ask.

Please read the newbies section. Its not just about new-to-mones advice, it contains self discovery advice. Additionally, you can find information for new users about the forum.

Its ironic that you tell us you have years of mone experience, yet you are talking about basic points in several posts now. My point is to provide you some tips to answer furture posts you may continue to think of making. Self discovery!

(09-27-2016 9:13 AM)Androcles Wrote:  Please read the newbies section. Its not just about new-to-mones advice, it contains self discovery advice. Additionally, you can find information for new users about the forum.

Its ironic that you tell us you have years of mone experience, yet you are talking about basic points in several posts now. My point is to provide you some tips to answer furture posts you may continue to think of making. Self discovery!

Geez... Relax pimp daddy. When I first started out, I bought a lot of commercial Pheromones that are highly marketed on the Internet. I still do. They don't list detail description of what Pheromones they put in their products. I usually just sprayed and go. They smelled nice and some girls love the smell.

I do have a common sense and basic knowledge about what Pheromones do. I usully just buy them like candy. Don't ask me why. But there are enormous amount of information on here in details and many guys on here break these Pheromones down into exact science. Yes, that blows my mind.

For example: I just found out that I may very well be Androstenone sensitive. Now I knew what Androstenone does (makes you macho and alpha). But I didn't know I was sensitive to it until 'Metaltree' on here pointed it out. All I knew was that I was crashing from certain products.

Anyways, thanks for the Welcome, playa! See you around.

Claiming knowledge about mones while asking basic questions.......check!

Already asking questions without doing research.........check!

Playing the victim when confronted........check!

Troll alert!!!

(09-27-2016 11:29 AM)RoverRobb Wrote:  Geez... Relax pimp daddy.

RoverRobb, we've had a lot of trolls drop in, along with a few nutjobs. Because of this, many members, including myself, have short fuses when it comes to new members, so you will need to earn some respect around here.

The advice from Androcles is valid, and worth your time to follow. He was sincere in saying that it's not just for noobs, as even old hands have learned things in there.

I'm on here to learn things and contribute to the forum.

I understand every forum has a troll side and hero side. I don't belong on either side.

With that being said, I type out things and call guys names that I would normally do and talk in real life.

I'm definitely not looking to be a keyboard warrior on here.

(09-27-2016 9:15 PM)RoverRobb Wrote:  I'm on here to learn things and contribute to the forum.

I understand every forum has a troll side and hero side. I don't belong on either side.

With that being said, I type out things and call guys names that I would normally do and talk in real life.

I'm definitely not looking to be a keyboard warrior on here.

And that would be wise! The comments made about you earlier have already been dealt with in private and won't happen again. I will state in public that if you want to deal with members on this forum who you know nothing about the same as you would with buddies in real life and engage in name calling it may not fare well for you!

(09-26-2016 11:58 AM)RoverRobb Wrote:  My type: I've only been with White/Caucasian Females (different hair color, different eyes, different skin tones). They are who I am attracted to (product of my own Surburbia environment, I guess). Mostly 7-8 looks with height and body types ranging from 5'2-5'7" (average, athletic and skinny). I always treat them good as I'm a Mr. Nice guy. I want to move up to 9-10. I've never been with any other races or nationalities. Not interested either.

My Desire: I would like pretty/hot girls to open me mostly. So I'm looking for Pheromones to give me that extra help. Then I will go into beast mode. I have open body language. Just that my personality got stiff and introverted.

I would like to know if you guys can help a brother out and give me some useful advises on what products to use. Your help will not be overlooked.

Thank You guys in advance!

I've been playing with the Pheromone Treasures product line a lot lately so I'll give you some recommendations from their product line. As of this moment it is my favorite product line.

Getting approached by a woman is rare but the best product for getting approached by women for me personally is Alpha Treasures. Of course everyone is different and I still don't get approached very often but wearing Alpha Treasures solo seems to get me approached the most. It does contain Androstenone and considering your reaction to to evolve spray you may be sensitive to Androstenone. I am sensitive to Androstenone myself. it gives me anxiety but alpha treasures gives me much less anxiety than other Androstenone products. So it may be worth considering although it is expensive. Seriously though, waiting for women to approach is not an efficient strategy. It happens too rarely.

You need to get yourself cold approaching. A product that is excellent for cold approaching is Grail of Affection. It hits fast and helps women get a good feeling about your right off the bat. That is a good way to get some positive feedback until you are used to cold approaching. Be careful if you are Androstadienone sensitive. But considering that you own Androstadienone (at least I think you own it though you spelled it wrong) I think you would know if you are Androstadienone sensitive or not by now.

If you happen to be Androstadienone sensitive the other Androstenone free product that is great for cold approaching in the Pheromone Treasure's product line is Swoon. This product makes people friendly and hits very fast.

If you favor Caucasian women, there is one product in the Lal product line that some have reported to attract blonde women - SXD-9. It is not a fast hitter like Swoon or GOA. Personally I have found SXD-9 to be decent for cold approaching but not great. But more importantly I do not get Androstenone anxiety from SXD-9.

Also, Apex has an Androstenone free product called Core. For me it is very hit or miss. I have had great hits with it but other times it does nothing. It is inconsistent for me but it has a large following. It is consistent for other people.

In the Pheromone XS product line the best product for approaching women for me personally is Barely Legal XS. It has a little Androstenone but the amount is fairly small. It is one of the best mixes I ever tried for getting good initial reactions from women when cold approaching. I have seen other people complain this product does nothing for them. Everyone is different!

Good luck! I hope I gave you some good ideas for further research.