Well, for me at least.

This has been my go to combo for a while now, I had passed the time where I buy all the pheromone products and see which works the best for me, I finally found it.

Dosage: I don't know where you guys got the "Can't overdose on HG/LK and do 5 sprays or more" from, but the rule of "less is more" applies greatly to these two products. For me, I only do 1 spray of each in a 1 to 1 ratio, meaning if I do two sprays of HG, I do two sprays of LK.

App area: one product on one side of my neck.

Self effects: Feeling confident, feels like I wanna have fun, and wanted to laugh really easily. Also horny from the copulins. I do get the depression of Androstadienone but I won't get it until 6-7 into the app. It is REALLY easy to open a conversation with these two on. The self effects evolves into a good feelings of happiness the next day after you washed it off.

Effects: as I said, for me, I have seen positive reactions from all ethnicity of women, this combo just don't care about ethnicity. I got random small talks from women that has been around my mone cloud for a while, as mentioned above in the self effects, it was also easy for me to open a conversation. Once the conversation was opened by me or the lady, it is really easy to keep it going. I have only seemed to master the social and ice breaker effects of these two products, haven't got any sexual hits or imprint hits, I do have to say those are more subtle and takes skills to notice and drive the conversation toward to. I managed to get the facebook of a pretty blonde lady in her 30s in one week after she got exposed to these two products everyday during that week, we are still in contact.

At the end of the app time (around 8 hours), I will begin to feel dizzy and tired. I only wear this on a 2 day on 2 day off schedule, it still gets the job done.

Holy Grail and Ladykiller are almost the exact same formula.

This is the old "kitchen sink" mix again.

Androstadienone (x2), Androstenone (x2), alpha-Androstenol (x3), beta-Androstenol (x3), Androsterone, Epiandrosterone (x2), Androstanone, Androstadienol (x3), Estratetraenol, DHEA Sulfate, Oxytocin, Copulins

Androstadienone, Androstenone (x2), alpha-Androstenol, beta-Androstenol, Androsterone, Epiandrosterone, Androstanone, Androstadienol, Estratetraenol, 7-keto DHEA, Copulins

13 different ingredients total.

(04-22-2019 4:05 PM)theLaw Wrote:  This is the old "kitchen sink" mix again.

Androstadienone (x2), Androstenone (x2), alpha-Androstenol (x3), beta-Androstenol (x3), Androsterone, Epiandrosterone (x2), Androstanone, Androstadienol (x3), Estratetraenol, DHEA Sulfate, Oxytocin, Copulins

Androstadienone, Androstenone (x2), alpha-Androstenol, beta-Androstenol, Androsterone, Epiandrosterone, Androstanone, Androstadienol, Estratetraenol, 7-keto DHEA, Copulins

13 different ingredients total.

This sounds like a very interesting mix.

It is almost the exact same formula yes, so it is like you are putting on the same product twice, which I further emphasize that you do not exceed two sprays maximum for each product. The only difference is one has Oxytocin and one does not. Oxytocin is quite a magical molecule in gaining trust I heard.

I wished the vendor combine these product into one, balance it, and make it into a roller oil, or maybe he already did with M512, C4, or Wingman?

Holy grail bit disappointing for me. Tried it again but got less satisfactory results with it. Not much kick to it or maybe my mone is showing its age. Better stick with my staples.

(04-22-2019 4:05 PM)theLaw Wrote:  This is the old "kitchen sink" mix again.

Androstadienone (x2), Androstenone (x2), alpha-Androstenol (x3), beta-Androstenol (x3), Androsterone, Epiandrosterone (x2), Androstanone, Androstadienol (x3), Estratetraenol, DHEA Sulfate, Oxytocin, Copulins

Androstadienone, Androstenone (x2), alpha-Androstenol, beta-Androstenol, Androsterone, Epiandrosterone, Androstanone, Androstadienol, Estratetraenol, 7-keto DHEA, Copulins

13 different ingredients total.

hi there

where can i find more of these kitchen sink mixes?

(05-26-2019 1:21 AM)ppHamelin Wrote:  Holy grail bit disappointing for me. Tried it again but got less satisfactory results with it. Not much kick to it or maybe my mone is showing its age. Better stick with my staples.

Mind stating your staples?

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Don't think it is a kitchen sink mix...makes you feel confident and calm.Only downside is Androstadienone .

(04-22-2019 10:38 AM)masterfu678 Wrote:  to 1 ratio, meaning if I do two sprays of HG, I do two sprays of LK.

You don't reapp ? product feels like need a reapp after 6 hours..

Will test this combo this week and report...hopefully I have the same effect as you. Had good effects with HG and Lady killer separately...let's see if they work together. They definitely have something else with their stuff compared to what they mentioned as ingredients.HG is mr rockstar vs Lady killer more romantic/sexual or gentleman who gets laid.lol Been bit burnt out with too much Androstadienone /lack of sleep/stress.