(11-05-2013 12:45 AM)Pheroman Wrote:  Not angry but confused by your post.
I can smell Alpha nols. Very distinctive smell, specially when heated.
I can smell many products the next day, or after many hours or when I go to bed.
Of course the break down of the various molecules wont be the same, but I do see the effects next day for a few products.

You even say yourself that vendors are deceiving. Which is why I dont believe what they say.
When they get caught out a few times, then everything they say will be in doubt.

Pheroman, I found a link that may be useful to you

http://love-scent.com/forum/showthread.p...drostenone

Basically what happens when you put on a pheromone mix is that it diffuses into the air and that is how you get responses.

The rate of diffusion and conversion of molecules varies with the temperature, enzymes, bacteria...ect.

Think of 1 spray of a mix as 100 dots on your skin. Over time the dots are flying off of your skin. The lighter dots fly off faster than the heavier ones. A molecule like Alpha Nol flies off quickly and converts quickly while a molecule like -none is sticky.

I encourage you to do some research and reading on your own as this is a semi-complex subject.

I think there are so many variables in this, plain Alpha Androstenol that is suspended in just alchohol with little to no fixing, sprayed on the correct location on the body and nothing in place to hold off the conversion will diffuse and convert to none relatively quickly, however most reputable vendors have measures in place (whatever they may be) to substantially increase the life span of molecules like Alpha Androstenol.

I don't think we can just say most products social molecules will diffuse in 90 mins, because many of us have experience to say otherwise, it all depends on how the mix has been designed.

(11-06-2013 9:55 AM)Blade Wrote:  I think there are so many variables in this, plain Alpha Androstenol that is suspended in just alchohol with little to no fixing, sprayed on the correct location on the body and nothing in place to hold off the conversion will diffuse and convert to none relatively quickly, however most reputable vendors have measures in place (whatever they may be) to substantially increase the life span of molecules like Alpha Androstenol.

I don't think we can just say most products social molecules will diffuse in 90 mins, because many of us have experience to say otherwise, it all depends on how the mix has been designed.

Agreed.

However, we also can not propigate the myth that something that the user sprayed is working 12 hours later. After less than 3 hours, most of the ingredients of the initial spray have probably diffused and/or converted.

I agree that a lot of the products on the market are past their best after about 3 or 4 hours, but evolve is a good example of A product that is working to it's full potential for a good 6-8 hours depending on temperature, ime anyway.