It's true women can't inhale your mones over the phone but some mones are very good at helping with articulation, creative thought etc.

If you had to pick a #1 choice for a product whose selfies would hit instantly and add enthusiasm to your voice tone, make you talk more confidently , articulately, creatively, in the moment and help you to lead a conversation for 5 -10 min what product would you choose?

It could be a pheromone, molecule, or putative.. Doesn't matter.

Bottom line is we're going after those whose self effects improve telephone manner by a whopping margin over vanilla methods without mones.

Since by all means most of us use the phone to schedule dates and not get talk buddies with women, the ideal product should work for this purpose. I know people use the telephone for business conversations, friendship etc and that's all fine and dandy but the main point here is enhancing telephone game with pheromones for dating purposes to get that date close.

Sure game is important.. Pheromones don't tell you WHAT to say, but they help with the delivery.

Personally I don't want to rely on pheromones or any external substance for self effects. I want to develop my mental muscles to be able to control my own state. But for the sake of discussion, I'd say products that make you relax fit the bill. For me it's M3X, SXD-9, NAG.

I have used AV, BW or SOB. They boost my ego and, more importantly, lower the pitch of my voice by a few semi-tones.

Titan, Ascend, Corpo....Stuff that makes me extra confident....A314 is great, but makes me too quiet.

P74 does the trick for me by making the words flow. P97 makes me more articulate.

(03-22-2016 9:45 AM)LoveInSpain Wrote:  I have used AV, BW or SOB. They boost my ego and, more importantly, lower the pitch of my voice by a few semi-tones.

Unfortunately those are all polar products whose selfies often get me putting my foot in my mouth. Sure its nice to say what you feel but only if its congruent with how things went down in person.

If I met a girl online for example and started off as Mr Social, and then we talked and got closer and she gave me her # and I call her up and like I'm wearing SOB and I say "They call me Mr BRASS BALLS my dear".. Well that could put off a lot of girls .

So I feel the telephone (unless used for telephone sex) should not be a medium of crudeness. AV, BW, SOB they're all hit or miss in terms of how women react and even on the phone I would be liable to losing out on some important connections.

(03-22-2016 10:19 AM)DarkLord1 Wrote:  Titan, Ascend, Corpo....Stuff that makes me extra confident....A314 is great, but makes me too quiet.

Confidence is key on the phone.. A decisive man will more than likely close for a date through this medium than a wishy washy man.

My only concern is do they take a long time to get working on you in terms of selfies? Phone conversations don't have hrs to morph over. Treating the call for a date like a business transaction may work for some men, but I only fear it may also intimidate somewhat. Women can't see your facial expressions to know if you're serious or joking.. Seriousness kills attraction, esp in early stages.

I do like that alphas always make me more confident though. If one came across as an important alpha (CEO, Manager etc) in person, perhaps nothing beats going with an alpha on the phone too.

Original a314 was fantastic in this respect for telephone convos too.

(03-22-2016 12:20 PM)NP17 Wrote:  P74 does the trick for me by making the words flow. P97 makes me more articulate.

So you recommending a combo of p74/p97? What dosages do you use?

Sounds interesting NP17.