I never thought I'd need to do this, but I need to induce a little extra jealousy/aggression in another guy. The short story is this: his girlfriend and I have been seeing each other for nearly a year, and I'm forced to be in a social environment with him in a few days. They live in different cities and they're together mostly for cultural reasons (they're asian, I'm caucasian). They fight often. He's an insanely jealous man-child as it is, and I just want to make sure he does his usual thing and makes me look good.

Around her I usually wear p83+b-androstenol with either my own mix, or more recently, Alfa Maschio.

I'm just looking to alter the mix enough to evoke a little static from him. This is what I just whipped up:

per spray:
25 mcg a-androsterone
25 mcg adrenosterone (11-oxo)
12.5mcg androstenone
6.25mcg epiandrosterone

Keep in mind this is on top of my current stuff.
Any thoughts?
I'm considering a little extra p83 but that neroli is so damn strong.

Oh another thought I had: what about a tiny amount of copulin mix?

oxytocin is supposed to have a dual effect, both bonding effect and when invoked... the momma bear effect. I don't know if guys do the momma bear like women, but it can flip flop like that. it can make it better, and then when you slap somebody elses kid at walmart, the parents go nuts and all hell breaks loose.

Interesting. Two things, though; I dont have oxytocin and I'm not convinced it has pheromonal properties. Besides, assuming oxytocin can work pheromonally, there's just as good a chance I just help them bond, instead... I don't need to take that risk!

(11-19-2013 2:38 PM)DrHorrible Wrote:  Interesting. Two things, though; I dont have oxytocin and I'm not convinced it has pheromonal properties.

Well, I'm convinced. It's a visual brightener. It seems to lower Testosterone. There are probably other effects, but that's certainly part of it. Anyways, I'm not saying it would be good for your mix. What are you trying to do, exactly? Pregnenolone tends to have an energizing effect that mixes very badly with androstenone. If you're trying to produce a bad effect, I wonder what it would do. Also, beta nol can be bonding in calm situations, but explosive in more hostile ones....

I've never heard that about Beta Androstenol. I wear it frequently; It's prob my my favorite to wear around her. I already intended on wearing it heavily tonight. I look forward to any negative effects on him! What I'm trying to do is push this guy over the edge. Their whole relationship is a sham for cultural reasons. Even if I don't end up with her (I probably won't, being white), she deserves better than this jerk. He' already a jealous maniac who dislikes our friendship (I guess I can't blame him). The right moves and a little pheromonal help might just set him off tonight... for better or worse.

I'll consider adding some extra pregnenolone to the mix too, along with a small amount of copulins (if i can cover it well).
Wish me luck.

How did it go?

I love my beta nol as well. But there are some people you shouldn't share your thoughts with.

Well, I didn't get any aggression. What I did get was ...diffidence. For a cocky guy, he barely said a word to me. It was almost amusing how he went through lengths to keep his back to me, or to keep other people between us. It could have been the situation, but I've met him before and this was worse. If I stood with her or was speaking to her, he would actually leave us together; if we were walking together, he would walk ahead just to get away. Unfortunately he kept his temper under control, at least in front of me. I guess I'll find out eventually if they had issues afterward.

One other thing I noticed: with all that androstenone and androsterone, I wasn't sure how it would affect her. I'm quite sure shes ovulating, and she went out of her way a few times to compliment how I looked.