(08-31-2015 4:31 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  Yes, that's a different version from what I have. I suppose it's different from XS129C as well? You'd have to ask Steve.

Many things can have aggressive self-effects without being 'alpha' in the Androsterone sense. That second bit still isn't definitive, far from a dead giveaway from what I can tell. A single test isn't enough to tell you all there is to know about a mix. Give it a few more test runs and see what you can come up with. What you may be seeing is a form of dominance, which can disguise itself as Androsterone-like respect in certain contexts. I've had similar 'hits' to what you're describing from lower doses of Androstanone, from P75, from Primitive and other Androstenone-based mixes, and others. Don't think it's just Androsterone that will appear to give you some form of respect - some mixes used outside of their intended context will "morph" their effects, taking on a different light in a more (or less) inhibited environment, especially when the target is not highly attracted to you at that time (which is not to say unattracted, mind you).

You only tested this mix once, and at work, correct? Test it in a different environment, one where "Porn Star Experience" can really live up to its name. Because of its heavy disinhibition properties, this can be a social context where "dirty talk" will be appropriate. Testing a mix of this nature at work will hardly tell you what the mix is really doing, IMO.

No, I haven't tested it at work. I tried it at 2 sample sprays out and about town. So the targets were mostly store clerks, friends that I've made that work at different stores I go to. This was the report I posted somewhere else. I forget where now. Maybe it was in my journal on DiscoverXS.

I haven't posted a report of this, but I also tested it at a church at 4 sample sprays. I've actually found that this is an amazing mix for this. People don't want to talk about God or spirituality or even connect with someone in the context of church because it is such an inhibited environment. With PSE, it was the "Prophetic Star Experience." I was having a great time. I made a little speech and people clapped for me lol. I was very effective in getting support for people for community projects and engaging people and connecting with them.

I think maybe we are running on different ideas of what constitutes an "alpha" mix. Your criteria seems to be a little stricter than mine. I never meant that it is an "alpha" mix, but it does have a slight alpha vibe to it. It won't beta you, that's for sure.

Donno if you can read this due to my post count. Maybe you can if you're a registered user. But here's the thread with my reports on PSE:

https://discoverxs.com/forum/mens-journa...-s-journal

(08-31-2015 4:12 PM)andromun Wrote:  Why would they "make up 50 bottles" and hold a faux sale? That is stupid reasoning, what they did was proceed to production and then fucked it all up.

It is not stupid reasoning. They never had 50 bottles. I checked the site all day trying to decide if I was going to pull the trigger or not. In the morning they had 50 bottles listed. By noon they were down to 15 or so, by 2:30 they showed 7 bottles left. That is when I ordered mine. Shortly after that their in-stock number was back at 55. By that evening it was back down to 41 before showing completely out of stock 20 minutes later.

The number 50 was a bullshit number. I don't think they realized that they would be sold out completely within 12 hours so they "created" more stock to sell

I realize that this is way unusual in regards to how normal businesses operate but I have also contacted them multiple times and each time I have gotten a more illogical, horseshit answer that made no sense in context to the previous answer.

I also never contacted them and said I was the guy who called 2 days ago. I just asked about an order I placed on such and such date that showed a FedEx label created but never left the warehouse.

For the first 5 days of that ridiculousness there were no "bad" bottles. The story was my bottle was packaged and was ready to ship but "must have been misplaced" somewhere at the FedEx facility which a lady named Mika was going to personally drive down there to find

You can't apply normal logic with them. They habitually lie through their teeth and spoon feed bullshit at each turn.

I think people were paying for androtic bailout package.

Just out of curiosity... has anyone already tried to cancel the A314 order?
If I'm not wrong tomorrow will be 3 weeks since the product appeared 'in stock' and vaporized along with all the orders.

Thanks.

No, I have not tried to cancel. Throughout my grueling to and fro with their customer service via email, it appears as though they are in a scramble. They also tried to stay as far away from the word "refund" as possible. I'm gonna hang in there and hope they can get their shit together soon. One thing is crystal clear: do not expect any up front information regarding when we will get our order.

(Yesterday 5:09 AM)mornyone Wrote:  Just out of curiosity... has anyone already tried to cancel the A314 order?
If I'm not wrong tomorrow will be 3 weeks since the product appeared 'in stock' and vaporized along with all the orders.

Thanks.

(Yesterday 5:38 AM)Spars Wrote:  No, I have not tried to cancel. Throughout my grueling to and fro with their customer service via email, it appears as though they are in a scramble. They also tried to stay as far away from the word "refund" as possible. I'm gonna hang in there and hope they can get their shit together soon. One thing is crystal clear: do not expect any up front information regarding when we will get our order.

I've made a refund ticket yesterday. Currently waiting as they are "looking into this" I will keep you updated.

Geeze! And I ordered a few bottles of shine a few weeks ago. No sign of shipment to date!?

Should I be getting worried? AD truly has gone downhill in the last few years.

Still no replacement for A314 but BW imo is thus far the closest. I use A314 for work everyday but did test BW at work for a month and you can read up in the BW thread.

BW seems a little more attractive than A314 and can successfully be used as a stand alone. It's got more none than A314 however and that can lead to some unintentional clitoral stimulation in the workplace weather you want it or not. Just stick with the A314 and you can drive it sexual or business, up to you.

I am looking forwards to new A314 reviews........

To answer an earlier question, I believe that the present rev 32 works great, fantastic actually, and I don't have to tame it as much as older versions.

My present work mix is 3 drops A314 1 drop Xist oil and a glob of SXD9. Works like a charm and never lets me down.

Enjoy the mones

FD

(Today 7:14 AM)Fishdude Wrote:  Geeze! And I ordered a few bottles of shine a few weeks ago. No sign of shipment to date!?

Should I be getting worried? AD truly has gone downhill in the last few years.

Wait... You ordered IS without A314 and you are also on the 'no shipment' wagon? Ouch... that's definitely scary... I had some more products in the order but I thought they were not being delivered because of the A314 blocking... So nobody is getting orders from AD actually?

(Today 7:14 AM)Fishdude Wrote:  Still no replacement for A314 but BW imo is thus far the closest. I use A314 for work everyday but did test BW at work for a month and you can read up in the BW thread.

BW seems a little more attractive than A314 and can successfully be used as a stand alone. It's got more none than A314 however and that can lead to some unintentional clitoral stimulation in the workplace weather you want it or not. Just stick with the A314 and you can drive it sexual or business, up to you.

Jumped on that car also, I have tested for two days and I'm pretty happy with the results, oh and as added bonus I find the smell to be quite similar... so hopefuly my target won't notice
Will try to update in another thread if I get solid results.

Hmm. That's strange, fishdude. After filling out their silly survey a few weeks ago, they reached out to me and issued $40 in store currency so I could take a look at another product on their line, while I waited for the flagship. Hope they don't screw me if I ever wind up looking for a refund, but I digress. Picked up IG (no samples or flair added) and received it yesterday. I'd take a look into that if I were you.