Out of curiosity, how big are the samples? Those small plastic bottles which are the same size as PXS' / Apex's / PT's ?

(05-15-2018 1:59 PM)ShadowX114 Wrote:  Out of curiosity, how big are the samples? Those small plastic bottles which are the same size as PXS' / Apex's / PT's ?

It were in glass vials with screwing caps, no sprayers or droppers.They are bigger than PXS samples for sure, I'll measure them when I get home.

Stefdude, did you ask specifically for NOS samples ?

I received my 2 samples a couple of weeks ago(right before the website changed the name to V2) both came in glass spray bottles and were labeled l2k v1 and v2. Mine feel and have the consistency of either oil or silicone base, not alcohol.. just wondering if hey may be the same ?

Also one came in a scent that is sorta lime green, the other is a ice tea’isn color. Any idea the name of the scents?

I received mine when I purchased AM.

(05-16-2018 4:02 AM)StickyB Wrote:  Stefdude, did you ask specifically for NOS samples ?

I received my 2 samples a couple of weeks ago(right before the website changed the name to V2) both came in glass spray bottles and were labeled l2k v1 and v2. Mine feel and have the consistency of either oil or silicone base, not alcohol.. just wondering if hey may be the same ?

Also one came in a scent that is sorta lime green, the other is a ice tea’isn color. Any idea the name of the scents?

I received mine when I purchased AM.

I didn't ask for NOS, Chris told me all products are NOS now (alcohol + some propylene glycol) but until he officially announces this don't take my word for it.Mine are definitely alcohol and unscented.It could be more oily because of the scent?How long does it take to dry?Oil is thicker, silicone is very thin but it doesn't dry quickly neither.

Preliminary results from a couple of tests in the right environment, just because there is zero input on this and you have no clue what to expect.

I really liked it.Too soon to say if it's a little bit better or a little bit worse than the old L2K but the products are definitely comperable.To be precise, the chance that I'm wrong on this, is possible, but it's small.

I'm experienced enough to avoid placebo as much as I can, and consider random chance as well.Whoever says that he can completely eliminate those variables is ignorant, thats why we need a large sample and a scientific approach.

That's why I had almost a week mone free before I started testing it (even though I'm very familiar with the old L2K), not only for possible residue from BW, but to regauge my base,moneless attraction.
Forgeting your base is a real phenomenon when you use pheromomes often, or when you make other changes on yourself during the same period.

The attraction of old L2K is there, the "lazy man's" pull (the chance of women initiating and kino) is there, the acception of escalation, kinda like a mild disinhibitor, is probably there.The exact power of all of the above is yet to be determined.

1 possible difference that I'm less certain of, perhaps due to its alcohol carrier.It seems it's more aggressive towards men.It can irritate them more.In one of the occurances my buddy commented that it sobered him up for a moment, not exactly making him angry (dont forget he is my buddy though), but the smell pierced his nose, violently you can say.
I've said it again, Chris' molecules are potent and pure.Anyone smelling an unscented AD product can tell this.
I'm not sure if the cause of the above effect on men can have a correlated effect on women (more sexual power?,less comfort?).

The men aggression is seen with the old L2K on aged applications and after redosing.For example 1.5-2 sprays and 1 reapplication 8 hours later can cause this.The old app becomes unbalanced(1), the reapp adds more none, even if it is balanced/buffered(2) and it also enhances/reactivates the diffusion of the old, unbalanced app(3).

Chris is not very responsive to give a hint about dosages.Reports on AM NOS suggest that it needs less and it's easy to OD.Common sense says you need low dosage and reapp after 5-6 hours, while with silicone you can go higher initially and reapply quite later.

Dosage was 4 bulb drops which should be between 1 and 1.5 sprays.Cover cologne on nearby spot.

Thanks for the reply which version of lk2 have you got and have you tried out v2 yet? Thinking of buying but undecided if i should try out v2 or lk2.

cheers

(05-19-2018 11:33 AM)slickman Wrote:  Thanks for the reply which version of lk2 have you got and have you tried out v2 yet? Thinking of buying but undecided if i should try out v2 or lk2.

cheers

I haven't tried V2 yet.It's v1 but now it is called just L2K and v2 is called V2.

Hi stefdude have you done any more testing with the l2k would you say its similar to the old version thanks

(05-29-2018 7:39 AM)slickman Wrote:  Hi stefdude have you done any more testing with the l2k would you say its similar to the old version thanks

A couple of more tests during the day, which isn't where you should put L2K.Old L2K really shined at night while during the day you quite less effects.Nevertheless it worked (current one).
Hopefully I should be able to do a couple of night tests by the end of this week.

Any other testing this?

Night time testing.Wow!
I think it's on par with the old, that night makes my previous observations more solid.It might be a bit better, it might not.It needs a larger sample.I sense a possible difference to the old:Perhaps it's less consistent over time (not over different uses).It's like waves of blatant effect followed by a little bit milder effect and repeat.The old seemed more steady.That's still somewhat abstract, I need more tests to conclude on this.

Major factor #1: I tried Paradox's hint and didn't rub the application, almost didn't spread it at all.Just dabbed it to the whole area.Looked quite more effective but it could be due to factor #2, and/or #3
Factor #2:Summer is almost here, reproduction period ;)
Factor #3:The exams period for college girls is about to start.Too much studying and pressure makes them need fast sex more.

Dosage:6 drops (~2 sprays)
Details about the hits tomorrow, I'm a little bit drunk now.