Hi all,

I am wondering has anyone ever experienced using mones, but gradually losing its effectiveness? I have been using the same bottle of AV for the past half year now, and I don't seem to be getting the same 'self effect' kicks as I use to =\..it also seems to be losing it's 'charming' aura around the people I wear it with.

At first, when worn, I use to get the Tyler Durden swag effect, but now, the feeling doesn't really appear anymore. I have heard that mones degrade over time, but I am sure that this doesn't happen untill at least a couple of years.

A note, I have changed storage containers for my vial of AV before, I once emptied my AV solution into a Euro Dropper bottle (which I've cleaned thoroughly with Isopropyl alcohol, and THOROUGHLY washed it out with water several times and let dry), I am wondering if it the mones could've possibly been denatured from tiny traces of the cleaning solution I used to clean the euro dropper bottle?

I have also tried a mone detox for about 2 weeks and use exfoliating LAVA SOAP to wash my application areas, but after two weeks, still no Tyler Durden swag effect like I use to =\...

I have to rotate my mones often. It's not a problem for me because I have a shitton of formulas. But if I wanted to wear FB Glace everyday for instance, it wouldn't hit for me the way it did the first day. I don't wear any given formula more often than once a week. I wear mones largely for self effects so this is what works for me.

(02-17-2013 3:48 PM)PheroNoob Wrote:  Hi all,

I am wondering has anyone ever experienced using mones, but gradually losing its effectiveness? I have been using the same bottle of AV for the past half year now, and I don't seem to be getting the same 'self effect' kicks as I use to =\..it also seems to be losing it's 'charming' aura around the people I wear it with.

At first, when worn, I use to get the Tyler Durden swag effect, but now, the feeling doesn't really appear anymore. I have heard that mones degrade over time, but I am sure that this doesn't happen untill at least a couple of years.

A note, I have changed storage containers for my vial of AV before, I once emptied my AV solution into a Euro Dropper bottle (which I've cleaned thoroughly with Isopropyl alcohol, and THOROUGHLY washed it out with water several times and let dry), I am wondering if it the mones could've possibly been denatured from tiny traces of the cleaning solution I used to clean the euro dropper bottle?

I have also tried a mone detox for about 2 weeks and use exfoliating LAVA SOAP to wash my application areas, but after two weeks, still no Tyler Durden swag effect like I use to =\...

1. I don't think that most mones are likely to degrade. Microbes can degrade mones, but it seems unlikely that this will happen inside a concentrated bottle. I'd be more worried about the mones offgassing a little. The lighter molecules will evaporate first, leaving an unbalanced mix.

2. People do build tolerance to mone self effects. I haven't seen any reports on how much of a holiday would be required to retgain self effects with particular mones.

Don't have time to elaborate, but yeah, EXACTLY the same for me. AV by himself doesn't have any self effects on me anymore for at least the last 6 months.

Still ok to spike my a314 mix with it but beside tha I really dont get whats happening, took a long break from it, people cant get used to my signature since Ive been to a lot of different clubs.. It just stopped working at all.

(02-17-2013 3:48 PM)PheroNoob Wrote:  Hi all,

I am wondering has anyone ever experienced using mones, but gradually losing its effectiveness? I have been using the same bottle of AV for the past half year now, and I don't seem to be getting the same 'self effect' kicks as I use to =\..it also seems to be losing it's 'charming' aura around the people I wear it with.

At first, when worn, I use to get the Tyler Durden swag effect, but now, the feeling doesn't really appear anymore. I have heard that mones degrade over time, but I am sure that this doesn't happen untill at least a couple of years.

A note, I have changed storage containers for my vial of AV before, I once emptied my AV solution into a Euro Dropper bottle (which I've cleaned thoroughly with Isopropyl alcohol, and THOROUGHLY washed it out with water several times and let dry), I am wondering if it the mones could've possibly been denatured from tiny traces of the cleaning solution I used to clean the euro dropper bottle?

I have also tried a mone detox for about 2 weeks and use exfoliating LAVA SOAP to wash my application areas, but after two weeks, still no Tyler Durden swag effect like I use to =\...

My AV was losing its kicks too and the color slightly changed. I always keep it in room temperature but its been two years since I bought it. Aahh.. How I missed the 'aha' moments I got from it when it was solid

on my AV the label coloring was so under-tint. like it was under the daylight for weeks. does that mean that its an old-ass one?

My AV seems to still produce strong hits, after using it for like 1 1/2 years. I'm not really certain if those hits are any different now. But if there are any differences, those are rather subtle.
It still makes me very visible and still turns girls into alpha cats on the prey, who will snag and drop my ass whenever they please.

Self-effects are now very minor for me and girls don't really react to repeated AV exposure in a certain timeframe, though.

(03-02-2013 2:33 AM)LebronJames Wrote:  Don't have time to elaborate, but yeah, EXACTLY the same for me. AV by himself doesn't have any self effects on me anymore for at least the last 6 months.

Still ok to spike my a314 mix with it but beside tha I really dont get whats happening, took a long break from it, people cant get used to my signature since Ive been to a lot of different clubs.. It just stopped working at all.

Ah yes! thats how I feel =[...I trying to give myself a break from using alpha mones for a while; its been around 3 weeks free of mone use now.

How long was your 'long break'?

(03-02-2013 12:56 PM)idontknow Wrote:  My AV seems to still produce strong hits, after using it for like 1 1/2 years. I'm not really certain if those hits are any different now. But if there are any differences, those are rather subtle.
It still makes me very visible and still turns girls into alpha cats on the prey, who will snag and drop my ass whenever they please.

Self-effects are now very minor for me and girls don't really react to repeated AV exposure in a certain timeframe, though.

I've always thought that self effects are all part of the equation of 'pulling'

Mones = Self effects
Self effects = Feel good
Feel good = Positve body language
Positive body language = attraction to the opposite sex

which is why I'm a bit miffed about not experiencing these self effects anymore from AV =[

You lose the self effects from all products, but they still hit strangers just as hard as they hit you for the first time.

I find cycling products and brands as well as rotating the alpha molecules helps. I tend to get build up so I need to be careful personally.