Examples:

NA
Imprint
XIST
True Love


Some contain Androstadienone some don't and it must.may be added, however, all are love products designed for relationship vibe.

Anyone care to put these pheromone products head to head in a shootout of pros and cons...!

I've never used True Love, but the others I can compare a little bit.

NA is the most difficult to use it seems. Most people are using a lot of it so they can see blatant effects, which is great. I do that too. But when used around one girl multiple times at just one drop it's like a time bomb going off. Everything that has been building up inside her is coming to a boil and then it's BAM! "I need you. Don't ever leave me. Where should we get married?"

Imprint I'm new to, but it's a heavier hitter than NA off the bat. I've noticed some pretty deep eye contact from most women and kino. There also sensory amplification that's going on. I think that's part of it. To make them feel everything more deeply and create a memory response that can be triggered. Not knowing exactly how to work it yet I can say it's easier to use than NA, but if you have trouble with Androstadienone go easy on it.

XiSt is one of my staples, because it can soften harsh blends and make something aggressive seem more romantic. On it's own it's very attractive and it's also socially status raising. When I use it solo around my girl it definitely makes her crushy right away...so I'm speculating that a girl you meet for the first time will feel that as well, but hide it because it makes no sense to her that she should feel that way. That's why it needs to build over time. It's a good choice for someone looking for the "falling in love" product without Androstadienone .

My favorite of the three is XiSt, but I'm still testing Imprint and that may change.

(09-30-2014 10:49 PM)shakes Wrote:  Imprint I'm new to, but it's a heavier hitter than NA off the bat. I've noticed some pretty deep eye contact from most women and kino. There also sensory amplification that's going on. I think that's part of it. To make them feel everything more deeply and create a memory response that can be triggered. Not knowing exactly how to work it yet I can say it's easier to use than NA, but if you have trouble with Androstadienone go easy on it.

IM A LITTLE FASCINATED BY IMPRINT . I bought it but changed my mind last minute and had my order cancelled.

What scared me about imprint is thundr description of it on his website .. He said something to the effect of imprint will make you the wearer feel like bonding and attached as much as it does her after all its meant to draw the two of you closer.

HOLD UP! This scares me. I have lost many a woman on NA because I felt exactly this -- desperation and longing of having to be with the woman exposed due to self effects.. That longing made me act too beta and eventually although women showed attraction they lost interest.. Also NA made me boring as hell.,. It had self effects of making me say ANYTHING that comes to mind.. My mind was emphatetic and almost sedated with the product.. Whereas with something like AM I am amped up and on my A game.. However, unlike love product with sexuals like AM you have to have good game to get anywhere.

Now After hearing imprint causes the user to feel bonding and attached I wonder if ill ever be able to see things objectively or if Ill fall under the same NA umbrella of wimpyness.


Androstadienone generally bothers me.. In AM in doesn't anymore as its buffered with none.. I use 2 sprays AM and that's 20 mcg none. .Sure I come across as a fucker but I know how to spit MM game pretty decently now on my targets and although I can see AM intimidates some of the youngins it also attracts.. I play an attack and release game.. push pull. I am more able to play this game with the sexuals mones rather than the ones I listed in this thread.

Can you clarify what Imprint made YOU feel..
Also exactly how were women affected by imprint after the date or meetup was over...
With NA there is increase in texts, calls, voicemails, etc. And invitations to meet up.. Did you get this with imprint....
Finally there little or no none in imprint.. did you find Androstadienone bothered you.. I find Androstadienone bothers me without ample buffers.

(Sorry no question marks.. my crazy keyboard).

It actually made me feel pretty awesome! Clear headed, smooth. It *did* experience some sort of "bond" feeling, but with everyone. Nothing beta or wimpy about it to me, but I also have no trouble with Androstadienone . I get dizzy sometimes, but it passes.

My first time using it was while my girl was on her cycle and it cause an immediate turn around in her mood. Bitter to giggly and playful in under ten seconds! At the end of the night it was like porn style making out and she really really wanted to give me oral. Being the gentleman I am I had to oblige. The sensory increase definitely makes it's way into the bedroom. STRONG payload, if you know what I mean.

I almost wish I got the negative effects from Androstadienone just so I could compare how it feels. Maybe ask for a sample on your next order. Also I'm pretty sure Kimba mentioned a version of Imprint without Androstadienone . Maybe you could ask thundr about that.

(10-01-2014 3:42 PM)shakes Wrote:  STRONG payload, if you know what I mean.

I'm glad you said this. I noticed after wearing Imprint for more than 2 days in a row, it increased wad...love that word...and velocity of said wad significantly.

(10-01-2014 3:42 PM)shakes Wrote:  It actually made me feel pretty awesome! Clear headed, smooth. It *did* experience some sort of "bond" feeling, but with everyone. Nothing beta or wimpy about it to me, but I also have no trouble with Androstadienone . I get dizzy sometimes, but it passes.

My first time using it was while my girl was on her cycle and it cause an immediate turn around in her mood. Bitter to giggly and playful in under ten seconds! At the end of the night it was like porn style making out and she really really wanted to give me oral. Being the gentleman I am I had to oblige. The sensory increase definitely makes it's way into the bedroom. STRONG payload, if you know what I mean.

I almost wish I got the negative effects from Androstadienone just so I could compare how it feels. Maybe ask for a sample on your next order. Also I'm pretty sure Kimba mentioned a version of Imprint without Androstadienone . Maybe you could ask thundr about that.

What have you found the best method of behavior to act congruent with imprint while on a date, or in the bedroom....

(10-01-2014 3:42 PM)shakes Wrote:  It actually made me feel pretty awesome! Clear headed, smooth. It *did* experience some sort of "bond" feeling, but with everyone. Nothing beta or wimpy about it to me, but I also have no trouble with Androstadienone . I get dizzy sometimes, but it passes.

Ahh but this is beta behavior.. Bonding with everyone including 70 year old bags with tits sagging like a sack of potatoes doesn't exactly heighten your reputation as a catch.

Attractive high status men are chased and usually only hot women chase them or approach them. Others usually know HEs OUT OF MY LEAGUE so I don't dare get in his business.

I don't have imprint so I can't really comment but with NA I got this feeling old 60 y.o farts would approach me.. real ugly ones too.. They seem to think youll speak to anyone period.

scary.

I guess this is why I like AM so much. A hot in demand man whose got a sexual vibe, will stand up for himself by even being aggressive to a woman hes with if she so deserves it. In the end if he plays his cards right his aggression won't lose him the girl but even gain her attraction, lust, love, and respect.

I have a feeling imprint will be a lot like NA. if it is ill pass. I already have NA and have experienced phone # closes , etc but eventually been friended because I felt bonded too much.

Hot women who sleep with men will tell you one thing time and time again. Its not the needy or deparate that ended up scoring with them. I find love pheromones like NA, and maybe imprint (I haven't tried) make a man needy and desparate because of the emotional attachments and bonding qualities.

Just my perspective.. Not saying only my opinion is right. I'd love to hear yours.

Honestly, NA has never made me needy. In fact, combined with Alpha subs that I started listening to, NA has made me nonchalant about wanting some girl or not. I'm not afraid telling a girl I want her. But I could care less if she wants me or not, because I have nothing to lose if she's not married to me. But again, I'm only speaking for me. Some see NA as alpha and some see it as beta. It depends on how a person use it.

Yeah, my bad. I don't find bonding and attachment to be the same thing at all. So from what you are saying I will take it back. I did not feel in any way needy or emotionally attached to anybody and have not experienced that with NA either. I wouldn't use any product that made me feel that way.

I QUOTE thundr on his website description of imprint:

Recommended Dosage is 1 to 3 sprays maximum in 24 hours. Apply to either the back of the neck, wrists, or back of the shirt. This formula is strong and can imprint the wearer as well. This is a bonding product and bonding is not often one sided.


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Imprint the wearer.. WTF.. Are you telling me if women feel separation anxiety, you as a man will feel it too.. Geesh that is being needy and desparate.. No man should feel likes he has bonded or given up a part of his soul to someone he hasn't even fucked or even kissed. Imagine the heartache losing a woman one has such deep connection with BEFORE you have even slept with her.

The big question is , does bonding imply being needy and desparate.. I think the statement has some merit.. Consider this , you meet with a girl you bond, you ignite together, she touches you, she feels chills, so do you. The attraction grows until one day she has to tell you she loves you but is not in love with you... WHY.. Because a jerk who was too much of a man did her right and sooner while you on the other hand bonded with her and instead of pushing for the physical . By the time you escalated to kissing and imprinting her over many dates , the jerk already did her and now she sees you as a great friend she wants to tell her intimate bonding stories too. Stories like how all he wants to do is fuck her, and how youre such a great guy for seeing her as more than sex.. BLAH BLAH BLAH.

I have a girl im working on right now who absolutely LOVES when I ignore her.. She chases me, picks up the phone right away etc. When I pay too much attention she seems to have a shield up and come up with the boyfriend line and lets just stay friends line . The more beautiful the girl the more this seems to be true.

Beautiful women are chased by men all the time.. They have heard every line. And if I get mushy with a 10 too fast because I have fallen spell to the bonding myself im liable to be written off.

A woman who never gets any attention may love you and keep you around, but the 10s they are a different breed and require a different game.

How well have you found imprint to work with Mystery Method game.. just curious because that is the game I use repeatedly with women in my circle.

BTW I mean no disrespect to thundr and imprint.. Convince me enough and ill buy it.