(05-21-2019 8:23 AM)Pheroman Wrote:  The new trend I'm seeing now is that women in LTRs are not wearing rings as much as they used to.

Very interesting.

Based on the stuff I have read online, it seems like cheating has lost its stigma and people don't feel guilty about it as much as in the past. Of course this is theory on my part again and not my real world experience.

I got this idea from reading all the stories on casual sex project. The people who post there are self selecting so this source might not be representative of the population as a whole.

(05-21-2019 9:40 AM)metaltree Wrote:  I got this idea from reading all the stories on casual sex project. The people who post there are self selecting so this source might not be representative of the population as a whole.

I'll check that out.

Well I would guestimate more than 50% of women have gone to an Ex for sex at least once in their lives while appearing or actually dating others.

And at least that many had sex with a married man, or someone they knew was in a Long Term Relationship.

(05-21-2019 9:40 AM)metaltree Wrote:  Very interesting.

Based on the stuff I have read online, it seems like cheating has lost its stigma and people don't feel guilty about it as much as in the past. Of course this is theory on my part again and not my real world experience.

I got this idea from reading all the stories on casual sex project. The people who post there are self selecting so this source might not be representative of the population as a whole.

I'm pretty sure some, if not a lot, of the stuff on Casualsexproject is written by paid writers. The layout for penthouse forum wasnt much different and they had the same thing, paid writers making weekly contributions.

It makes sense, given the advertising they do, for them to hire a few people to put some crazy stories up.

i always do an agreement with my current GF, something like this:

1 i can have as many partners as i please, but i must always tell her.

2 i must use condom.

3 i must have sex with her as much as she wants(GF).

4 i must be honest and tell her everything, dates, girls you meet, girls you will be
fucking, so on(i dont tell about the mones, never ever ever, to no one).

5 "it's not cheating if i tell, i am not cheating because i tell everything."

6 if she wants to have sex with another guy she must tell me before.

7 i don't tell them that i would breakup with them if they have sex with other guy(never happened, i am sure).

8 if they don't tell me, that is cheating and cheating its unacceptable. -> i tell them this

9 i must have absolute control and access over their phone, social networks, passwords, so on

i even had pondered the possibility of tracking them with gps(never felt the real need), i discussed this gps thing openly with them, i always tell them that in the beginning of the relationship

don't do any of that before you have sex with the girl a few times, and be good at it)



i do the rules so that what i came up with


i always tell them everything, but i dont tell that i approached, that i've done all the work for it to happen (they never have access to my stuff)

never had a girl break up with me because i had sex with another one

you must be smart and give her the security she wants, never fuck a girl when the relation it still recovering

she must know that it was just meaningless sex, you are man, you hunt pussy

things that i noticed
:
girls suck better when they know you have other girls
they try much harder to please you
you have absolute power in the relation

@Rcount

Being in a more than 20 year long, and open, marriage,I politely and respectfully disagree with your rules-set. From my point of view and translation you have a large bit of inequality there and I cannot see any sexually-liberated fine lady, worth keeping, sticking around for the long term under those conditions. While I'm sure that it is currently working for you, and I'm not judging by any means, I can see potential problems in your approach on down the road.

If you were involved with a woman and she imposed those same ground rules upon you: she can bed whomever she pleases whenever she pleases, but you must seek her permission before you do the same; and she can go through your phone, computers, and communications; but you cannot do so with her; etc. would you accept those terms?

To me, it's the whole "what's good for goose" parable.

Myself, I define "cheating" as 'clandestine and/ or impermissible'. Whether or not one confesses their naughty indiscretions later is purely academic and a matter of taste. Myself, I enjoy my wife giving me a blow-by-blow description in bed because I'm a big dirty pervert and i get off on such things. She sometimes likes that in return, sometimes doesn't want to hear about it.

And if you are interested, both of us have "veto rights" before, during, or after the fact on any playmate. I don't believe that either of us have ever exercised those rights.

I also disagree (again, politely and respectfully) with the "gives you all the power" statement. I'm probably taking it far too prima facie; but those who are truly in control seldom need to exert or exercise such power at all, let alone in such a stoic manner. To me, at least, a position of power is held through respect, deference, and honor; not the imposition of exertion.

But hey, whatever works for you. I'm the last person to judge and our ground rules are based upon a life-long commitment to each other, not sharing our lives for a small time. As long as you and she are both fully happy and satisfied, then more power to you.

"I must have absolute control and access over their phone, social networks, passwords, so on"

comes off like an absolute control freak with trust issues that preys on women with low self-esteem.

Good luck

(05-21-2019 10:07 AM)arrhenius Wrote:  I'm pretty sure some, if not a lot, of the stuff on Casualsexproject is written by paid writers.

Perhaps, but after somebody on here (wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more) alerted me, via PM, to something on the site I can attest that they do, indeed, publish real-persons accountings.

(05-29-2019 12:49 PM)RussianWolf Wrote:  "I must have absolute control and access over their phone, social networks, passwords, so on"

comes off like an absolute control freak with trust issues that preys on women with low self-esteem.

Good luck

hahaha i know, that's my intention, even the gps part, it's the extreme of it hahaha

i do that stuff, in the beginning of the relationship, when i decide that they are the ones i want to keep

that's more a qualification bit than anything, i rarely check their stuff, but i check it in front of them, when i feel like it

i would not give the official GF status if i didn't trust them

high self-esteem, low self-esteem, if they like you they accept it,

btw: it even says that you like them, because before i didnt give a f*** and they would tell me if i dont care i don't like them ...




try it , but only on girls that really like you

then tell me if you didn't enjoy it



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(05-29-2019 12:01 PM)Gladen Wrote:  @Rcount

Being in a more than 20 year long, and open, marriage,I politely and respectfully disagree with your rules-set. From my point of view and translation you have a large bit of inequality there and I cannot see any sexually-liberated fine lady, worth keeping, sticking around for the long term under those conditions. While I'm sure that it is currently working for you, and I'm not judging by any means, I can see potential problems in your approach on down the road.

If you were involved with a woman and she imposed those same ground rules upon you: she can bed whomever she pleases whenever she pleases, but you must seek her permission before you do the same; and she can go through your phone, computers, and communications; but you cannot do so with her; etc. would you accept those terms?


-> yes, i have many fake profiles they don't know that i can delete the things i dont want them to see, they can do the same, but i always tell them want i see fits


To me, it's the whole "what's good for goose" parable.

Myself, I define "cheating" as 'clandestine and/ or impermissible'. Whether or not one confesses their naughty indiscretions later is purely academic and a matter of taste. Myself, I enjoy my wife giving me a blow-by-blow description in bed because I'm a big dirty pervert and i get off on such things. She sometimes likes that in return, sometimes doesn't want to hear about it.

And if you are interested, both of us have "veto rights" before, during, or after the fact on any playmate. I don't believe that either of us have ever exercised those rights.

I also disagree (again, politely and respectfully) with the "gives you all the power" statement. I'm probably taking it far too prima facie; but those who are truly in control seldom need to exert or exercise such power at all, let alone in such a stoic manner. To me, at least, a position of power is held through respect, deference, and honor; not the imposition of exertion.

->i agree, by establishing the rules i am the one assuming the control in the relationship, of course sometimes you have to let them win

But hey, whatever works for you. I'm the last person to judge and our ground rules are based upon a life-long commitment to each other, not sharing our lives for a small time. As long as you and she are both fully happy and satisfied, then more power to you.


-----> thank you ;)

i love your way of doing it, i did that in the past , the women always felt guilty, and didnt want to do it again, do you get that?

actually i got that idea from john soporno videos

i would let them f*** some guy, then they would always come up stronger to me,

but everytime i did that they would get some guy that really sucked in bed,

they would feel guilty, and think that i didn't like them, if i liked them i would not let them do it, and so on

i found out that women don't like equality and they don't like responsibility so i know that i am the one that has to drive, i know that today its a crime to be feminine, but they cant help it


i dont mind, i like the humor of it and coming up with crazy rules and see them all happy with it

Do my ladies ever feel guilty?

Nope, never. They feel feminine, empowered, trusted, and inspired. When a woman feels total comfort, total trust, and total acceptance she, like any other human, can fully blossom and become her true self. Any woman that knows throughout her heart and soul that she can be totally herself, devoid of judgement and repression, becomes a true force of nature and an inspirational woman. The libido rages like a volcano and I find myself thankful that she has multiple lovers because I need a break.

Of course, to put it as politely as I can, our approaches are polar opposites.

My opinion is that those false-alpha characteristics lessen the potential of life, relationships, and personal growth. Stances of misogyny, mistrust, hoarding power, domineering control, and dishonesty simply are not my style. I've found that my approach increases the quality of life, the relationship, and our intimate loving bond.

But then again, what the hell do I know about women?

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@pheroman

I have some bachelor time coming up in 2 weeks. I thought it would be a good experiment to lose the ring for anight and play the single-man game, and then replicate it with the wedding ring to see if there is any difference.

I'll report back.