We all take some health risks in our lives.I consider mones to be one of them.Until yesterday I was less anxious about it, believing it's probably harmless if I'm not overdoing it.And it maybe is.

The reason I opened this thread is the realization that the info we have access too, through internet search, seems complete to make a conclusion about simple matters but it isn't.Sometimes you need a doctor and sometimes you need a well informed doctor.I suspect the corporate world affects the information that is available to us, at least for the first pages on a google search.

My story:I have 5 months I do hard bodyweight training with great results everyone on my circle talks about (and my body was very good before).I have 1 month I take whey protein, after I looked it on the internet and knowing that almost everyone on a gym takes it.I bet a simple doctor would have said that I do no harm.But yesterday I had my mother ask a very good and informed pathologist (who is a family friend) and he said I'm doing a very stupid thing and that whey protein has some bery bad excipients in it(i hope i translated this right).

I felt stupid because I was almost certain I was doing the right thing.Then mones came in mind, as they seem to fit in the same category of a probable unknown risk.

After that I googled again about whey protein and skipped the first 10 pages.In the first few pages I never saw a health risk from it, not even a mention.On the 10nd page I start seeing some different opinions.I don't know if that's what the doctor meant (I'll try to talk to him myself) but it seems that non organic whey protein comes from a very commercial milk, of bad quality, from cows fed with bad food and growth hormones.A further possibly bad treatment is the next stage, to get the final product.Now I'm looking for organic whey protein or even for a plant based protein.

So this thread is about 3 things.Whey protein, mones and the hypothesis that big corporates affect the info we can access throughfrom at least the first pages of an internet search.So:

Anyone here taking whey?Did you take a doctor's opinion on that?
Did anyone take a doctor's opinion on mone usage?I suspect you need a well informed doctor to have an opinion on that matter.

I feel that nowadays there are many traps to avoid, I never thought that he would say I'm doing a very stupid and unhealthy thing for a product so widely used that it advertised as totally harmless (unless you have an allergy) and even beneficial.

I don't take whey, but I know people avoid it. Like some cross fitters on Paleo, as Whey contains casein.

Personally I'd rather eat a lot of really lean meat.

(07-22-2014 6:36 AM)NextLevel Wrote:  I don't take whey, but I know people avoid it. Like some cross fitters on Paleo, as Whey contains casein.

Personally I'd rather eat a lot of really lean meat.

I don't think casein is the case.It's in the milk and the greek yogurt.What's wrong with it?

You can find organic whey from grass fed cows. Ive seen it for about $30 a pound

(07-22-2014 6:54 AM)whatupbrah Wrote:  You can find organic whey from grass fed cows. Ive seen it for about $30 a pound

Yeah that's what I'm looking at the moment.But first I need to be sure that the problems are because of the food of the cows and not in whey in general.

why not try vegetable proteins? monks get proteins from soy products and other vegetarian diet. but ive seen some huge monks and i know they are devout monks that dont break their laws. i personally take these right now and are better than just proteins imo. i signd up for members but still kinda expensive for how long it lasts but its packed with nutrients.


http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/produc...ings/3090/

I started drinking whey in small amounts about 5 months after I started working out. tbh, I haven't noticed much difference in my health for better or worse than when I first started without protein shakes. but I buy it anyways just incase...also I tend to run out of meat in the house a lot, so I just make small drinks of this instead as a side to a meal without protein. I watch my weight as well, so I only drink maybe 3 a week, so barely any.

i use the top Amazon powder: http://www.amazon.com/Optimum-Nutrition-...roduct_top

When it comes to nutrition and fitness most doctors are not very informed. I walked into a doctors office years ago and after the initial exam i was informed i was obese based on my BMI. I was 6'0 225 lbs muscular with abs, blood pursue was fine.

I take whey protein... No side effects that I know of ....

I'm somewhat lactose intolerant and it gives me an upset stomach. I get this stuff called Lacteeze which contains enymes to help digest it better. But to be honest, I'd rather just eat a few cans of tuna rather than drink it. There's just something about waste milk product I don't trust.